dealer said to me private id get 9k all day long, thinking of getting a new st2 with all the extras i want, and payin 350 a month finance over 3 yeears on the remaining balance after giving them my st, cos a year old st2 is going for a few k then when it was new so not much of a loss and i know its not been ragged or anything:D plus i could keep it standard for a couple thousand mile and get used to its power while running it in then moontune for deffinate and be smokin type rs and vxrs:D