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and tell us if your misssing the low down power ?

To be honest I haven't noticed any loss low down. If you look at the 0-60 figures on MT's website, the 165 kit is 7.1 secs and the 185 is 7.0 secs. So it's a fraction better, not that you'd notice it. It's when you hit 4500rpm you take off. So i'm well chuffed with my investment. If you got a spare £500 i'd recommend it.