cheers all, @matt its a very high temperature paint for manifolds and stuff, up to 1000 degrees, not sure on the name mate but shall have a look tommorow for you and let you know, @kev cheers, yeah i was looking at them but dont take my fancy so i decided to do this, i got it from ebay lol, it was £20 for 3 meters x 30cm not much but ive still got loads and loads left and its good quality stuff, its abit like a fabric