i got proxie 4's apparently much better in the snow although made out of the same rubber as the T1r's... last year in the snow they was excellent... never got stuck unless i beached the car on a bank of snow too deep....

honestly i powered up very steep hills and they got me all the way up... the toyos ive had on the rear for 20k+ and there half worn... the front's wear out yearly because i tend to be a fast paced driver on empty country roads