tested the AF today, was in bright sunshine so not perfect, doesn't lather quite as much as Dodo, bit more watery, cleaned well, dried fast, did leave rinse marks quickly before I could leather it fast enough, possibly less than DJ does, car looked shiny after though.
Dodo Born to be Mild and Gloss Enhancing ones above are the business, can't fault the AF pretty even with DJ, need to try on a dull day.