Yeah I've tried toyo proxy, they actually come with 1.5mm more tread than most tyres apparently because of their wear rate. I found them a little to soft and handling was affected slightly, I do a lot of driving on twisty wales roads and don't know if its just my car but its noticeable what tyres are on. The potenza are wat it was tested and I assume set up on,and lasts longest of tyres I've had. I do wish they were cheaper though lol