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#110708 - 23/11/07 07:27 PM ST 170
Knight Offline
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Took my mate from work who has an ST 170 out in mine today, he said it was basic and recons his is faster. Any thoughts?

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#110709 - 23/11/07 07:37 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: Knight]
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I beleive that the ST170 is the same 0-60 top speed 130 so more or less the same stats but the Fiesta is more sure footed and nible, Just take him down the twisties and you will soon loose him.
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#110710 - 23/11/07 08:30 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: rudest1970]
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the ST170 wasn't faster than the ST! as for handling the ST170 was good as well so not sure u would loose it easily!
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#110711 - 23/11/07 09:15 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: babyboom]
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My mate at work also has a ST170 and we have had a few burn-ups and as soon as we hit the twistees i was gone , Must be my driving skills
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#110712 - 23/11/07 09:38 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: rudest1970]
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My mate at work also has a ST170 and we have had a few burn-ups and as soon as we hit the twistees i was gone , Must be my driving skills




Hi a my hubby had an ST170 and we had a race one day wasnt much in it I won though ha ha now he has an St Focus and I dont stand a bloody chance he always has to go one better. But I think like you all say take him down the twisties thats the beauty of the fiesta st the handling

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#110713 - 23/11/07 09:48 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: Girlracer]
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he is probably jealous, lets face it - you got the better car!
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#110714 - 23/11/07 09:52 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: babyboom]
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the ST170 wasn't faster than the ST! as for handling the ST170 was good as well so not sure u would loose it easily!




I agree with Jimmy.

The ST170 v's Fiesta ST debate is a verrry close match, the only way to resolve it is to put them up against each other on the Track.

There are events where you can do this, i.e. Castle Coombe Raceway.

Interesting to find out a result .

As Jimmy said, the Fiesta will be quicker off the mark and also quicker in and out of the bends; not by much, but quick enough to win.
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#110715 - 23/11/07 09:54 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: STrick]
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he is probably jealous, lets face it - you got the better car!




Ha Ha Ricky they just wont admit it though will they that the fiesta st is better than the ST170. The 170 looks old school now !!
Notice your sons got a PS3 so have we, does he play online?? if so whats his user name ?? and what does he play.

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#110716 - 24/11/07 07:25 AM Re: ST 170 [Re: Girlracer]
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nope they wont admit they made a bad choice!
my sons are 3 and a half and 5! they are not allowed near daddys ps3
i play online most nights, call of duty 4 is keepin me busy at the mo but normally im runnin and gunnin resistance! online name is its-me-innit.
also i have Colin McRrae dirt, warhawk, rainbow 6 vegas and motostorm.
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#110717 - 24/11/07 12:56 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: STrick]
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Cheers, Ill tell him next week! I fancy a focus ST (new one) whats the MPG like?

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#110718 - 24/11/07 02:10 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: Knight]
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my mate at work has a focus st and he reckons he gets about 18 to 20 mpg drivin steady
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#110719 - 24/11/07 02:49 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: STrick]
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my mate at work has a focus st and he reckons he gets about 18 to 20 mpg drivin steady



thats not too bad!
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#110720 - 24/11/07 06:02 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: babyboom]
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That's the trouble with the Focus ST, the mpg is frankly very poor. From hearing what a lot of people have said, 22-25 (on a run) is the average for normal driving. But because the more power you have, you are invariably going to want to use it, then it does quickly drop even from that.

I know the comparison isn't exact, but Hugh (the owner and founder of this website) once said that he got 40mpg+ out his turbo'd Skoda Vrs, and even when thrashed it would average around 28mpg, even though the performance wasn't that dissimilar. Or as another example, the Astra VXR is faster but more economic. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but Ford have got something wrong here, and thats one of the reasons I'd never consider buying a Focus ST.
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#110721 - 24/11/07 06:17 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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think the 5cylinder engine from volvo is well thristy as its probably how its built! see that now T5 model who using the same engine have now an extra 5BHP! now its got 230BHP!
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#110722 - 24/11/07 08:33 PM Re: ST 170 [Re: babyboom]
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The Focus 170 has a rubbish gear box... did I say rubbish.... I meant soggy, crappy, no feeling and should never have been put in. The car though handles brilliant as it is a focus so no real issues with that.

The Fiesta is a very nimple, agile car which a great gear box (if a little short for my liking) and great looks.

I don't think these cars can be compared... they are from different classes of cars.
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