Hi Guys,

My first post here, had my 57 ST for a week now.

A quick question for you. Has anyone been able to activate passive CDL so when you drive at 10 mph the doors lock automatically?

My car is in the Ford Service Centre as we speak and they are telling me it cannot be done, only on North American models.

The thing is I rang Ford main Technical Line (0906 553 3447 if anyone needs it) on Wedenesday this week and they said it could be done using the Ford IDS (Integrated Diagnositc Tool) machine.

So if anyone can let me know if you've had it done or if you know anything about it i'd really appreciate it.

Reply here or email me direct at info@netdirectmedia.co.uk

Thanks in advance
Ian

I'm getting this done to mine very soon!

They are correct that you have to use IDS and it is standard along with seat belt minder on Japanese spec STs not NAs, it's not sold in NA.

You have to go into manual configuration of the GEM in IDS and manually switch it on along with other stuff that we should be finding out when we do ours.
It's a long winded process which is why your dealer may be shying away from it.

I think you can also turn on instant fuel economy for the fuel computer.

Let me know how you get on!!

all cars should be fitted with this to be honest.

Oh to be a Volvo owner, it has all this as standard.

I'd be very interested in the instant mpg! If anyone has this done please let me/us know!!

Hi Dave,

They failed! They are sticking with their findings that it can't be done. I personally don't think that's right as Ford Technical said 100% it can.

So i'll contact Ford Technical Monday to see if they can give me more specifics so i can pass this onto the dummies at the Ford Service Centre.

If you want something doing...

Anyways let me know if you sort, it as i may not.

Contact me anytime at info@netdirectmedia.co.uk

Speak soon
Ian

It is quite a technical thing to do, you have to know your way around the configuration settings a bit too technical for a dealer.
Once you get to the right part though it's just a matter of ticking the check boxes for the function you want.
They are only used to auto reconfig using the VIN and "asbuilt" which puts the car back to the condition it left the factory.
Ford Technical will tell you exactly how to do it, the dealers need to phone Dunton Technical Dealer support as well not their own technical support who are crap. I speak with experience regarding the problems with my old ST.

Let us know how you get on

Cheers Dave, i'll keep you posted!

I've rang Ford Technical again and the chap i spoke with today said the Ford Service Centre went the right way into the CDL data on the IDS and as it said no to this option, can't be done, then its a no!

Mines a 57 plate Dave. Let me know if you are successful and i'll have another pop.

I'm not convinced yet.

Thanks
Ian

I have the same thing with the Focus. My old one I could set in about 30 seconds to automatically do this but my new one it can't be done... It's a pain really... Why can't they just set them all to do this without messing around or giving different configurations of software that may/may not be able to do it...

Agree 100% this should be standard now on all cars. Maybe its time for a Clifford to be fitted. Shame as a Cat 1 is already fitted.

Thanks
Ian

Agree that it is something that should be standard, but it's probably something that saves Ford ten pence per car by not programming it, so they won't do it. I think there's a few things like this: the seat belt undone light is one of them as is (I think) the gear change up light, that are there but not actually connected in order to save Ford money, except in countries where regulations and/or customer expectations demand it.

alrite guys, not trying to sound arsey but is it too much trouble to just lock the doors by pushing the handle in when you get in?

I know what you're saying, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the advantage of this is that the locking cuts out in the event of a crash, and the doors then automatically unlock, so that in that situation it's not stopping someone from getting you out. Whereas if you just manually shut the handles from inside then you'll still be locked in if you're in a crash and need someone from outside to get you out.

STrick i think you've lost Chris on that one! :-)

Just messing!

But TBH i just forget to lock the dammed doors and i know the day i forget my Laptop will get swiped off the seat. And no i can't be bothered to put it in the boot.

Passive CDL please!

It's not to do with cost because all the sensors are fitted (belt minder) just not used.
Belt minder is a MUST to get EURO 5* crash. As the current Fiesta cannot meet 5* even with reflex pack and ESP fitted then it is not enabled as it is seen as "annoying" to some customers. My wife hates it on her Focus, though it does make her put her belt on. (though if you depress the seat belt release catch three times it will go off!!)
"Start Of Trip" locking is not activated as Ford are worried that in the event of impact the Airbag module MAY not unlock the doors and they would get sued for getting you trapped (alledgedly). If you lock the doors yourself they are not liable, though they unlock on impact anyway.
They deactivate instant fuel economy on the fuel computer because people complain when it drops to 2MPG when you floor it!!
Shift up light on ST does not work because the rubbish Visteon Black-Oak ECU doesn't support it.

Scott, all MK 1.5 Focus' and 2000-2007 Mondeos can have Start Of Trip locking activated by locking and unlocking three times, provided the car has double locking fitted.

To change the way the car unlocks (drivers door only or all doors) on models without the function option in the fuel computer, you have to unlock the car with the remote then press and hold the lock and unlock buttons for six seconds till the indicators flash.

Guys,

I can't help but agree with ford on this one. I work in the aerospace industry and we do a lot of work on FMEAs and the like. Basically its a "what if" exercise and I have to agree with Ford by saying I'd rather the car didn't lock itself becasue it might not unlock itself in the event of a crash. Yes, the frequency of getting trapped in a car with fuel tipping on you and your passenger deciding he's Ray Mears and wants to practice his bush craft is quite low (depending on who your mates are), but if the passive door locks failed to "fail safe" you'd have a bad day and from Ford's point of view it would be an expensive mistake.

Look at it from Ford's point of view:

1. Laptop stolen - Car owners fault, should have put the laptop in the boot or had insurance.

2. Owner burnt to death through PDL failure - Ford's fault, compensation pay-out, damage to name etc


However....... I can't see why they don't activate the seatbelt warning light?!?

Umh not sure on that one Steve... But being practical Citroen, Renault and Volvo have it for sure and its a neat feature that can be controlled by the driver from a switch on the dash, simple!

Well, each company will review the risk and come up with a different outcome as assign risk numbers is quite subjective.

Fact is that I wouldn't buy a car on its self locking merits so they're not missing out on my money by not adding the feature. Equally, everybody on this forum has got the car regardless of its self locking. It may be a neat feature but its not impacting sales and could cause an issue in a crash. ie negatives outweigh positives

All it takes is one guy on the risk team who got locked in a car as a child to insist that its a traumatic experience..... bloody childlocks!