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#11900 - 05/06/05 09:24 PM Copied CD problem
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Ok Lou (fiestakingfisher) has just texted me to say her CD player was broken. I asked her if it was a copied CD & if the message she was getting was "ERR 3" & she said yes to both. I remember someone posting on here about the exact same thing & some people posting with the same problem and some solutions but I cant find the post. Luckily (*touch wood*) I havent had any problems with my copied CDs in my car. Apart from going to the dealership what were the other tips & hints given?
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#11901 - 05/06/05 09:29 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: PinkRinse]
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Well first off i would try another cd, a proper one to make sure its not the player itself and then also try the copied cd in another player to see if it is the cd. Is the disc scratch free?
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#11902 - 05/06/05 09:40 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Chris]
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She cant get the CD out & the "ERR 3" is the message she gets. I remember from the old post that some had the same problem & couldnt play copied CDs & others (like me) had no problem and happily played copied and "real" CDs together.
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#11903 - 05/06/05 09:42 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: PinkRinse]
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oh right, i've seen a few ford head units on ebay, and they were selling them with the cds jammed in the unit
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#11904 - 06/06/05 08:46 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Chris]
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I think its some sort of anti-piracy system, if you play a copied CD then it jams your headunit so you can't use it again!!!



(sorry, that was probably the least helpful reply ever...)
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#11905 - 06/06/05 10:15 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Parksey]
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I believe that's a CD mechanism jammed code. Most likely a warranty job but one thing to perhaps try is disconnecting the car battery and leaving it for an hour then reconnecting it and having someone immediately pressing eject before it tries to read the disc. Unlikely to work but you never know.

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#11906 - 06/06/05 10:37 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Hugh]
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take the unit out and freeze it it used to wipe the memory on sat navs ,radars stuff like that might work with radio.Don,t let it get to wet with condensation afterwards,but putting the ac on for an hour should fix that
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#11907 - 06/06/05 11:26 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: PeterDGM]
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pink i get the same thing as well, takes every cd but copyied one's and its a pain in the ass to try and get them out
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#11908 - 06/06/05 11:32 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Jonesy]
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nothing to do with it i expect, but bought joss stone's album a while back (its not bad actually), and it has special anti copy software on it - so when we stuck it in the pc to copy it it wasnt having any of it. Well unfair, but as its joss.. ill let her off! lol

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#11909 - 06/06/05 12:19 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: ChrisSussex]
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nothing to do with it i expect, but bought joss stone's album a while back (its not bad actually), and it has special anti copy software on it - so when we stuck it in the pc to copy it it wasnt having any of it. Well unfair, but as its joss.. ill let her off! lol




Bound to be ways around this...
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#11910 - 06/06/05 10:59 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: SA12]
Chris Offline
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Yeah get an aftermarket head unit
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#11911 - 06/06/05 11:10 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Chris]
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I have copied CDs in my car and they eject, play, rewind and fast forward with no problem Odd.
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#11912 - 06/06/05 11:17 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: PinkRinse]
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well if she wants to buy a working 6006 cd player i'll happily sell her mine which is now gathering dust on a shelf
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#11913 - 07/06/05 02:21 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Chris]
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i dont have the traffic thing on my radio on at all, but it just tuens it self on lol pain in the bloddy ass
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#11914 - 07/06/05 04:52 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Jonesy]
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i dont have the traffic thing on my radio on at all, but it just tuens it self on lol pain in the bloddy ass




Lol, i have that too, 99% of the time the traffic reports and pure useless but only keep it on for that 1% chance it will or might help me.

I've never had the problem with the copied CD's tho but i have a focus head unit. You lot have the ultra cool sony one!!!
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#11915 - 07/06/05 06:59 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Scotty]
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Do we??????? lol

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#11916 - 07/06/05 07:18 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: morganog]
ChrisSussex Offline
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is the 6006 cd a sony cd player then? or am I getting confused?

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#11917 - 07/06/05 10:39 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: PinkRinse]
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If this really is some kind of lame anti-piracy thing, there is only one real solution: take the car back to the dealer every time a CD gets stuck for that reason...

Last I checked (in South Africa, at least), copies for personal use are 100% legal - and there's no way I'm going to be subjecting my CD collection to the abuse they'll probably get in my car

You could probably try extracting the wave files and then reburn them to CD, as an alternative to copying an entire disc in one go.

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#11918 - 08/06/05 08:44 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Ryan_CT]
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Yes one copy of your own disk that you have legally bought is fine for backup purposes.

I cant see it being an attempt at anti piracy, I just think the headunits dont like certain brand CDR maybe??
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#11919 - 10/06/05 04:31 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: SA12]
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Mine plays some discs that I have copied myself but I tried one yesterday that a mate had done for me and it wouldn't play. Thankfully it ejected ok though!
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#11920 - 11/06/05 01:40 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Freestyle]
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Ta for your replies peeps Sorry I haven't replied earlier, but been down in Devon for the week. On the way back home, I was listening to the radio, and all of a sudden, the cd player came up with 'EJECT' and chucked a cd out... So I then tried to eject all CD's, and they all came out!!! Strange... lol... Going to try it with just normal cd's for a while, and see how it goes!!
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#11921 - 12/06/05 10:12 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: ChrisSussex]
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is the 6006 cd a sony cd player then? or am I getting confused?




I am a little unclear also, is a Sony headunit an option in the ?

I havn't read up on what the does have, 6006 multi changer is what i've picked up from this thread, i thought it had a Sony.

Maybe try copying all the music files onto the computer, then burning it all off onto a propper Music Disk... i.e Sony Audio Copying Disk.
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#11922 - 12/06/05 10:31 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Scotty]
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no scotty mate, its not a sony unit at all, its some big pile of poo unit, ford spoil the car by putting this crapy unit in it, but there u go
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#11923 - 13/06/05 08:14 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Jonesy]
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Yeh no I didnt think it was Sony - they'd not put a de badged Sony in it would they! lol. The Sony one I was talking about is in the new Focus and so the Focus ST probably.

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#11924 - 13/06/05 06:16 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: ChrisSussex]
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spot on chris
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#11925 - 15/06/05 01:00 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Jonesy]
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update to this... It's not fixed at all... It now is working as a single slot cd player... Can loan and unload cd1 and play, but not load any more argggh. Got to book it into the local dealer... They don't seem that bothered about it as say it's a big job due to having to take the dash apart...
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#11926 - 15/06/05 01:08 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: fiestakingfisher]
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Thats rubbish its dead easy to take the dash part out that relates to the cd player, its about four screws i believe.
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#11927 - 15/06/05 01:09 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: fiestakingfisher]
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take the dash apart!?!!?!?! cant they just remove the cd player then!!? they're having a laugh. ford dealers are work shy (no offence 'local ford dealer' - just in my past experience of my local dealer (and my partners employer!!)

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#11928 - 15/06/05 07:32 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: ChrisSussex]
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I not an expert on this, but I've never had any real problems with CD's in my previous ford players or in this one. Complitations and copied CD are a kind of grey area in the law (It not strictly legal but you can make a backup of your property). So I dont think its any kind of any priacy thing:
Anyhow, Here's a few hints that may help:-

1. Try to avoid using CD-RW stick with CDR's.
2. If you have a problem with a CD try dropping the recording speed down. The most realiable speed is single speed. (but that takes a while to do).

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As for getting the CD out of the player, I think a previous post mentions disconnecting the battery for around an hour. Then try ejecting straight away. That seems to be a good plan.

I think there something in the Audio manual about reseting an overheated player.
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My ole freestyle died with a 'compliation' CD in the drive, it had to go back to ford to be repaired (I got a reconditioned one back + my CD).

Good luck!

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#11929 - 23/06/05 08:12 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: goose]
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I've had trouble with the 6006 CD player in my Ghia, it kept skipping or not playing so had it looked at while there was still warranty (not that they found anything...). Though the few copied CDs I've played have worked fine (before I got these problems), I was told in no uncertain terms by a few people at the dealership that copied CDs were not ever to be used.

Anyone know about this one? - if you hold down buttons 3 and 6 it goes into a self test and does weird stuff!

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#11930 - 26/06/05 09:19 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Pete]
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Tip: Dont say "Well let's see what it'll do" and eject your copied CD infront of fiestakingfisher & her bf and then sweat buckets when all it says is "Ejecting" whilst playing a random radio station

I had to turn it off, it spat it out and I grabbed it before it could do anything else... Guess I wont be putting it back in then! *lol*
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#11931 - 03/07/05 11:38 AM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Freestyle]
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There is a problem with the CD6006 in the ST. It trapped my Original CD's and I took it to the local dealer, who scratched my dash up.

They got the discs out and it did it again, so I fixed it and it has been fine since, even plays the discs it previously trapped, and CDR's. However, the dealer had scratched it up, they ordered me a new one and offered to replace the dash parts they had damaged too.

The CD unit is manufactured by VISTEON. They also make a lot of other parts on the car like the air conditioning (that's poor aswell!!!!), starter motor and so on.

CDR's/Copies are no different, the player is cack if the mechanism can't deal with different thicknesses of disc. You could buy originals that are different in thickness. Discs WILL have different manufacturing tolerances.

Just think the CD6006 is a badly designed player.

By the way, it may look like 3 different units, but the CD units in the Mk6 fiesta are one complete unit, so the dash has to be stripped when they remove it ! From my experience, 9 times out of 10, there will be damage done to your car in the process


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#11932 - 03/07/05 10:40 PM Re: Copied CD problem [Re: Dunkyboy]
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my thoughts exactly re the fact that the player should play allll thicknesses. I've had 2 x new Clios, Ibiza Cupra with cd changer, and a panasonic cd player in my Fiesta, and Kenwood in my Williams...

Not one had a problem with copy cd's and I played them alll the time in them. I prefer to have copies then I can have every track on the cd as one of my favourites... Very rare is it I like *every* song on a compilation cd....
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