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#131000 - 10/08/08 07:16 AM Re: Montune Prices [Re: STrick]
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i think after just reading about STmike's jamsport supercharger conversion, the mountune package is utter wankybollocks lol



u so right there
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#131001 - 10/08/08 09:26 AM Re: Montune Prices [Re: babyboom]
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Ive been keeping an eye on this topic and just want to comment to stick up for mountune.

Mountune offer a full stainless steel exhaust system, K&N with Cold air intake and a remap for £1370 fitted right now. I dont know of any other company who offer the same for less and so considering its a ford back upgrade I think thats extremely great value.

Now mountunes own downfall maybe that there were maybe too honest and chose a very stingy set of rollers at TOTD to test their kits.

On these rollers cars the pumaspeed 180 package made 163 bhp rising to 169 bhp with the 190 map.

Cars with flexi, K&N's etc with making mid 150's so if you think your going to get the same performance increase without a full exhaust then you need to think again.

The only cars to beat the mountune 165 were cars with cams etc and even those were only making 174 bhp, far from the 190 bhp that its claimed they should make.

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#131002 - 10/08/08 10:32 AM Re: Montune Prices [Re: maestro]
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#131003 - 10/08/08 06:03 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: maestro]
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Ive been keeping an eye on this topic and just want to comment to stick up for mountune.

Mountune offer a full stainless steel exhaust system, K&N with Cold air intake and a remap for £1370 fitted right now. I dont know of any other company who offer the same for less and so considering its a ford back upgrade I think thats extremely great value.

Now mountunes own downfall maybe that there were maybe too honest and chose a very stingy set of rollers at TOTD to test their kits.

On these rollers cars the pumaspeed 180 package made 163 bhp rising to 169 bhp with the 190 map.

Cars with flexi, K&N's etc with making mid 150's so if you think your going to get the same performance increase without a full exhaust then you need to think again.

The only cars to beat the mountune 165 were cars with cams etc and even those were only making 174 bhp, far from the 190 bhp that its claimed they should make.




your efforts are wasted on this forum mate.

they just dont seem to get it do they

Dal


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#131004 - 10/08/08 06:10 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: w3dal]
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someones gettin a bit touchy
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#131005 - 10/08/08 06:28 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: marksmithst]
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someones gettin a bit touchy





not me
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#131006 - 10/08/08 06:49 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: w3dal]
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Maestro no one on this site knows who you are but i have a fairly good idea.

Please behave as this is a post about moutune tuning. Not an oppitunity to slag off people on this site!!
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#131007 - 10/08/08 07:01 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: Micky]
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#131008 - 10/08/08 08:44 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: STrick]
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I've never driven the mountune 165 package, but I've always been impressed by the figures. I think their stage 2 package is far too top end heavy for day to day use but the 165 gives a very good balance of power gains and low end torque improvement.
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#131009 - 10/08/08 08:54 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: steve1981]
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Alright, whats the 165 like on the old petrol dal compared to the standard? I'm thinking of getting it. Hhhmmmmm

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#131010 - 10/08/08 09:02 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: Micky]
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Watching

Maestro no one on this site knows who you are but i have a fairly good idea.

Please behave as this is a post about moutune tuning. Not an oppitunity to slag off people on this site!!




Hello micky, you want know who I am because I dont know anybody of either this site or the other fiests st forum, I joined the other one a couple of months ago when I bought my st, Im very interested in getting the mountune package so always look out for all the info I can on both sites. Ive read updates on this thread for the last week or so but wanted to defend moutune abit when comments got a bit silly.

I havent slagged off anyone and wouldnt dream of doing so, I just want to participate in a friendly debate.

I just see alot of people slagging of the moutune package but when youve actually looked harder into it like I have then the numbers do stack up.

just to repeat

to get a 15 or so bhp increase in horsepower then you need a full exhaust, airfilter and remap.

currently mountune do this for £1400 and pumaspeed do this for £1500 plus fitting.

Im split between the 2 kits my heart says pumaspeed because of the great performance, my head says mountune for the warranty and peace of mind.

I would like to see some 0-60 times etc on the mountune.

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#131011 - 10/08/08 09:12 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: maestro]
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no one is slagging off the kit per say, an enhancement is an enhancement. It's just the price tag of £1400 for 15 bhp when you could look at a supercharger and a couple of other bits for around £3-4k and get 70 bhp or more. Pound for pound it isn't a great return, but this is probably a lot to do with the STs engine and set up.

The kit serves its purpose but it is very late in the day and a big shame it didn't come sooner. It will benefit some people, I couldn't justify that sort of cash for the gain, I have no doubt it is more drivable and more willing, the standard set up does feel very strangled.

I would love to know what the 0-60 and 0-100 is on a standard ST and the gain improvement following the upgrade. That'd really sell it, asusming it knocked a second or so off to 60.
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#131012 - 10/08/08 09:36 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: JJST]
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I agree I think maybe moutune have missed a trick or 2, personally I would have liked to see 0-60 times and maybe even a video of a drag between standard st and tuned car to see the performance increase in action

The supercharger kit sounds fantastic but I I have some concerns.

1) most insurance companies want touch an aftermarket supercharged car, I know because i rang about every single one asking.

2) The ST isnt a dragster, its all about the b roads, its strength is its handling, will it be the same with an extra 70bhp? or will it understeer like the high powered vauxhall cars?

3) will the engine and transmission cope ok with the extra power, how long untill you need a new gearbox or the clutch starts slipping etc, thats a big increase.

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#131013 - 10/08/08 09:40 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: maestro]
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You have hit the nail on the head, there are many factors to tuning a car. I think the mountune kits address that.

This video may be of use to some people... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmP_0IAsyM4

Note the sprint figures are as much to do with the driver as anything. The Fast Ford feature on the tuned ST's pretty much proves that.

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#131014 - 10/08/08 09:41 PM Re: Montune Prices [Re: maestro]
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yep the 0-60 times are something I'd want to know. If it shaves 0.1 seconds off it'd be a pointless upgrade for me. I'm sure it shaves a bit more off but people deserve to know what they are getting for their money and yeah you're right a drag video would be a great way of showing what the upgrade has achieved.

Re: the supercharger I guess time will tell. Insurance can be a problem for modded cars but if you speak to Adrian Flux they will certainly sort you out with someone.

I agree that with that much power it probably will be less predictable when you're giving it some, but at the same time it must be fun!!!
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