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#138193 - 24/07/08 03:54 PM ST or 207 GTi
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Hey guys, have owned a Fiesta 1.4 Zetec for 2 years now and have been very happy with it and had no problems at all. I'm looking to change it next month and have been thinking about the Peugeot 207 GTi but now also considering a ST more and more and now cannot decide between the two. Has anyone got experience of owning/driving both that they could offer an opinion on? Cheers

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#138194 - 24/07/08 04:06 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: the4horsemen]
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didn't drive the peugeot but can tell u the GTI is faster than st cos its more powerful and also the fiesta new st going to be out sometime next year, the peugoet is more recent car and not too expensive and having a turbo is great if u want to make futher mods later and also the pug is less thristy than the fiesta. as for handling the ST is very good but heard that the peugoet was also very good but abit boring to drive but its more comfy and quiet than the ST. after u have to take in mind about insurance as think the peugoet is higher group. after also to consider which is a good car as well is the clio 197
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#138195 - 24/07/08 04:15 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: babyboom]
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That was quick, yeah i've looked at the Clio 197 and the Insurance is far too expensive and is also fairly high on the GTi. The other option then is the 207 GT but then think i'd prefer an ST over this

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#138196 - 24/07/08 04:18 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: the4horsemen]
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is the 207 have the 1.6 THP 150 BHP? cos if thats the case the engine is the same except its been lower on BHP but still the engine have a better performance than the st and better fuel consuption
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#138197 - 24/07/08 04:43 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: babyboom]
the4horsemen Offline
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That's the one, whereas the GTi is 175 BHP. Im leaning more towards the ST more and more however due to lower initial cost and lower insurance. I know a few people who had some big problems with Peugeot including the 206 GTi and since I have had no problems with Ford, looks like I may go with the ST.

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#138198 - 24/07/08 05:24 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: the4horsemen]
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personally i would have the ST but i am biased cos i hate peugeot's and Renault's lol
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#138199 - 24/07/08 05:29 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: STrick]
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My father-in-law has a 207 gti, yeah we know it's faster than the ST, but it feels wolly compared to my ST. I WASTED him on a few b-roads.

ST ALL THE WAY
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#138200 - 24/07/08 08:45 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: rudest1970]
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I'd go with ST, not sure how much the Pug is but if your budget is bigger than required for the ST, I wouldn't be considering the Pug as second, probably have the Clio over it but as they're both French... I'd be tempted not to bother

The ST is thirsty and with the new one coming out it's bound to hit residuals, coupled with the low prices STs are going for, you'd be best placed to get a second hand ST for a bit and then consider your options when the new ST is out and its competitors offerings - just my two pence
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#138201 - 25/07/08 06:11 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: JJST]
DAVE T ST Offline
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I'd go for the Pug as the ST has just gone out of production so expect a huge drop in residuals.

The Mini Cooper S has the same engine as the Pug so I'd look at one of those as well for better residuals and better build quality.

You can also get some good deals on pre registered Corsa VXRs now.

The "New" Fiesta ST's alledged engine will NOT be shared with Peugeot BTW.

Ford and PSA are only in "bed" with Diesels.


Edited by DAVE T ST (25/07/08 06:13 AM)
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#138202 - 25/07/08 06:13 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: DAVE T ST]
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I'd go for the Pug as the ST has just gone out of production so expect a huge drop in residuals.

The Mini Cooper S has the same engine as the Pug so I'd go for one of those for better residuals and better build quality.

You can also get some good deals on pre registered Corsa VXRs now.

The "New" Fiesta ST's alledged engine will NOT be shared with Peugeot BTW.

Ford and PSA are only in "bed" with Diesels.



indeed the pug have the same engine as the mini except the pug only have 5 gear compared to the mini who have 6 gears, thats the main difference
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#138203 - 25/07/08 11:17 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: babyboom]
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yeah the 207 gti has the same engine as a new mini cooper s, but its still french, and french car break down and loose lots of money. the st would hold its value better, plus with the new shape fiesta nearly hear the price has dropped loads on the (old) fiesta so you can pic them up really cheap.

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#138204 - 25/07/08 11:54 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: sasst]
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Cheers for all the advice guys, i'm leaning towards an ST more and more now and hopefully will be able to pick up a great deal now with the new Fiesta out soon

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#138205 - 25/07/08 01:59 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: the4horsemen]
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poor reliablity and customer service with renault/french cars, also although never driven a peugot, all reviews say poor driving position and badly positioned foot pedals, test drive them first.
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#138206 - 25/07/08 03:43 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: YellowBadge]
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about poor reliability and customer service did have the same with my ST spend every week in the garage cos there was something wrong
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#138207 - 28/07/08 11:13 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: babyboom]
sasst Offline
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must of had a friday car.
all french cars are friday cars.lol

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#138208 - 31/07/08 07:21 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: sasst]
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Every day is a friday in France!

Seriously, I don't think there is much of a difference between reliability of French and Ford. Here in the UK we have a history of believing that french cars are built poorly but to be fair, times have moved on. Citroen offer 20,000mile service intervals with no time limit - that sure as gives me much more confidence in build quality.

I will however say that the interiors in Citroen are a bit pants and it does feel cheap compared to the fiesta cabin. Also, the french do tend to do odd things with wiring and its a pain to work on when it goes wrong (but all cars are like that now too!)

As for Pugs - I loved my 306 D-turbo and Tamara (my girlfriend) now drives it and loves it too. Its far more comfortable than the ST and still is fun to drive even after 10 years on the road. However..... electric windows don't work, radio is dead and the door leaks after heavy rain..... think it was built on a friday
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#138209 - 31/07/08 10:24 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: steve1981]
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the 207 is a more moddern car, but it does not desever the peugeot gti badge at all not a shade on the old 205gti,
and yes i have driven a 207 gti
steve1981 yes you are right about the 306 they are a very good car you just need to sort out you door pillar looms

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#138210 - 01/08/08 07:11 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: gsidave]
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Well I would never buy another Renault. Not only were the electrics VERY fragile, but both Renault France & Renault U.K were 'poor' at best in trying to sort things out. Customer services at Renault U.K were shocking & rude !!
That was in 2004/5 so it was very recent.

I may stick my neck out in the future on a Peugeot, but I will be wary with French cars in future. I've never had an issue with Ford.
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#138211 - 01/08/08 11:38 AM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: Pacman83]
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Well I would never buy another Renault. Not only were the electrics VERY fragile. Customer services at Renault U.K were shocking & rude !!
That was in 2004/5 so it was very recent.

I will be wary with French cars in future. I've never had an issue with Ford.



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#138212 - 01/08/08 12:54 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: JJST]
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How come most of the posts on here are based on 'which is the fastest' or most powerful! That was only a minor thought when i bought an ST, I dont agree that so much emphasis is based on that. We live in a virtual police state now (thanks to Labour), so the chances of you getting caught for speeding or any other motor offences are quite high, thats before they punish you to the max.

It's amazing how no-one goes on about the looks of the ST, it has to be one of the most attractive hot hatches around. They look the business, are one of the cheapest to run and maintain.

I'm perhaps a bit older than most on here, but it'e more common sense than anything else that I based the decision on.
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#138213 - 01/08/08 02:00 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: ric77]
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I don't think you are tbh "thanks to labour" indeed... like any of the other political parties wouldn't have done the same ^^

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#138214 - 01/08/08 02:01 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: ric77]
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I don't think you are tbh "thanks to labour" indeed... like any of the other political parties wouldn't have done the same ^^
You do have a point about the looks though, it is a far better looking car than most of the small hot hatches out there.

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#138215 - 01/08/08 05:50 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: STonefly]
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ST by far
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#138216 - 02/08/08 08:52 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: ric77]
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it's because most interested in 'hot' hatches are most concerned with performace. Looks of the car are a given in my opinion. You wouldn't buy an ugly car just because it's fast would you? Well I wouldn't! And you're right the ST is a really nice looking machine. Certainly one of the reasons I chose it, that and the fact I couldn't stretch to a civic type r budget wise!

No regrets though, it's not too much of a compromise!
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#138217 - 02/08/08 08:57 PM Re: ST or 207 GTi [Re: JJST]
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it's because most interested in 'hot' hatches are most concerned with performace. Looks of the car are a given in my opinion. You wouldn't buy an ugly car just because it's fast would you? Well I wouldn't! And you're right the ST is a really nice looking machine. Certainly one of the reasons I chose it, that and the fact I couldn't stretch to a civic type r budget wise!

No regrets though, it's not too much of a compromise!




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