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#140578 - 26/08/08 09:35 PM Just removed spare tire (WOW)
simon348129 n00b Registered: 27/01/08 Posts: 43	Hi all, Just to let you know from my previous post (thanks for comments by the way). I have removed the spare tire and quite amazed by the difference. I was expecting it to maybe feel a little difference but not by much. But when I took it out this morning just took me by suprise how much more frisky it feels without any load in the back of the car. Even when turning corners it feels more responsive. Also when i dab the pedal it just shoots forward. I know you may think i sound over the top hear but for those who havent done this yet, just give it a go. You will be amazed Would defo recommend if looking for a VERY cheap upgrade
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#140579 - 26/08/08 09:40 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: simon348129]
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	It does make a nice difference. I did this in my fiesta just a bit more extreem. (changing seats over so only had the drivers) Just be carefull when you really slam the brakes on. The back end is lighter which is why it feels frisky. _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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#140580 - 26/08/08 10:39 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Micky]
winder Fiesta Fan Registered: 11/04/07 Posts: 164 Loc: Belfast or Woking in Surrey or...	Just make sure you get a can of that foam stuff in case you do get a blow out
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#140581 - 27/08/08 11:48 AM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: winder]
steve1981 Fiesta Nutter Registered: 26/09/06 Posts: 1287 Loc: Cambs	Quote: Just make sure you get a can of that foam stuff in case you do get a blow out LOL - if you get a blow out I'd be more inclined to get out my AA card. A can of tyre weld will help with punctures, but it wont stick back together a delaminated tyre.
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#140582 - 27/08/08 12:35 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: steve1981]
YellowBadge MountooningTipster Registered: 26/08/07 Posts: 11633 Loc: here	yes indeed, just as I was suggesting, try running on a full tank of petrol then on a few galls and notice that too ! I'm keeping mine in the boot just in case as offered above. _________________________ MR200 Stage 3 200PS Evans Halshaw Mountune Pro
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#140583 - 27/08/08 01:43 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: YellowBadge]
Artstu Fiesta Mad Registered: 20/12/07 Posts: 259 Loc: Derbyshire	You might also be refused recovery in the event of a puncture if you haven't got a serviceable spare, it would be worth checking with your breakdown cover if you have it.
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#140584 - 27/08/08 04:19 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Artstu]
steve1981 Fiesta Nutter Registered: 26/09/06 Posts: 1287 Loc: Cambs	Quote: You might also be refused recovery in the event of a puncture if you haven't got a serviceable spare, it would be worth checking with your breakdown cover if you have it. What about people who fit LPG tanks in the spare wheel recess?
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#140585 - 27/08/08 05:01 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: steve1981]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23742 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	It all depends on the terms and conditions. If the policy were to specifically state that you wouldn't be covered if you have no spare, then it wouldn't matter that the reason you didn't have a spare was because of the conversion to lpg. They'd say that you had signed up to the terms of the cover, and therefore it was at your own risk. If there was an exemption clause to this effect then it would probably be something like that you would be recovered but would be charged for this. _________________________
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#140586 - 27/08/08 05:29 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Mansell n00b Registered: 21/06/08 Posts: 44	I ditched my spare last week as well, and your right, what a difference, the car just feels lighter. Just need to remember to get a can of puncture foam!
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#140587 - 27/08/08 05:57 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Mansell]
Pacman83 Registered: 17/03/08 Posts: 779	One of my worst worries when driving any car would be lift off oversteer. I would have thought making the back end lighter increases this risk ? _________________________ Jon. UK #1 & World #2 at Pac Man (Arcade). http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=43&id=1563 http://www.justgiving.com/jonstoodley
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#140588 - 27/08/08 09:06 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Pacman83]
steve1981 Fiesta Nutter Registered: 26/09/06 Posts: 1287 Loc: Cambs	Quote: One of my worst worries when driving any car would be lift off oversteer. I would have thought making the back end lighter increases this risk ? What?!?!? - lift off overstear is the reason I love the ST..... it such a useful safety net when pushing the car's grip! _________________________ Eco-warrior
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#140589 - 28/08/08 04:30 AM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: steve1981]
Pacman83 Registered: 17/03/08 Posts: 779	Quote: Quote: One of my worst worries when driving any car would be lift off oversteer. I would have thought making the back end lighter increases this risk ? What?!?!? - lift off overstear is the reason I love the ST..... it such a useful safety net when pushing the car's grip! Told you I can't drive. I'll stick to Pac Man and swap it for a Proton _________________________ Jon. UK #1 & World #2 at Pac Man (Arcade). http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=43&id=1563 http://www.justgiving.com/jonstoodley
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#140590 - 29/08/08 12:20 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Pacman83]
steve1981 Fiesta Nutter Registered: 26/09/06 Posts: 1287 Loc: Cambs	LOL - practice on a big roundabout - accelerate into a corner and then when you start to understear, ease off and car will pull back on track. The ST does this is such a predictive fashion.... I took out a vRS and tried the same technique and can say its less controllable. _________________________ Eco-warrior
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#140591 - 29/08/08 03:10 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: steve1981]
Mattyh87 Fiesta Mad Registered: 31/07/08 Posts: 317 Loc: St. Albans	lift off oversteer is when you hammer it into a corner at speed, lift off the throttle - the backend goes light and you have a slide which you need to balance by giving a bit of opposite lock. balance the thottle too - as its front wheel drive you need to keep your foot on the throttle to keep the car from spinning. its not pulling it back on track - thats just the front wheels regaining traction as the wheels dont have to cope with accelerating and turning at the same time. lift off oversteer is a different kettle of fish! _________________________ Now in a 2009 PB Ford Focus RS!
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#140592 - 29/08/08 03:41 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: Mattyh87]
sasst Fiesta Mad Registered: 10/08/07 Posts: 355	+1 lift off over steer is fun, but ive just fitted 10mm rear spacers, and its much harder to get that now, you have to havin it, to get any.
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#140593 - 29/08/08 04:47 PM Re: Just removed spare tire (WOW) [Re: steve1981]
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	Quote: LOL - practice on a big roundabout - accelerate into a corner and then when you start to understear, ease off and car will pull back on track. The ST does this is such a predictive fashion.... I took out a vRS and tried the same technique and can say its less controllable. Try in an a spongy diesel focus. So much weight transfer its unreal. I would like to add don't practice on a public road!!! To do so is stupid. Go to a track if you want to practice. At least then if you cock it up you won't end up in a tree. £200- £300 is all it costs for a day and that is alot cheaper than loads of points/ possibly loosing your licence. Sorry to spoil the fun but i have seen first hand when these things go wrong. And its not something you want to see. _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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