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#140923 - 01/09/08 09:13 AM Why isnt the ST even lower as standard?
daddyp Offline
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I was thinking last night - admitedly i was sleep deprived and highly bored - but why did ford spend so much effort on producing a car that in reality needs very little modding (if your honest, its a great package as standard) but didnt really lower it that much.

Some will say yes, but what about the 'normal' people (lol) that use it to drive to the shops in blah blah blah - The ST ride is the stiffest ive ever known on a standard car - that is due to the shockers im sure. Iused to have a Pug 106 gti that i lowered 60mm all round with no issues as a daily drive - even with a heavy boot audio install and 2 in the back, it never rubbed.

And if im correct, a 35mm drop as opposed to a 15mm drop should improve the handling better?

It cant be cost, the same springs are not used throughout the range (i think) as the ST is 15mm? lower.

Ford will happily swap and fit Eibach spring and still cover warranty - so it cant be that adverse to the health of the car.

I was just wondering why, in a car that i think ford got absolutely right in every department (maybe a bit more power?), the gap between tyre and arch is so big

Look at the wheel arch gap on an Astra VXR - vauxhall got that one spot on IMO

Comments please - educate me

edit: heres my pug - she was a great old girl :P
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#140924 - 01/09/08 09:20 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: daddyp]
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would be nice to be lower as standard, but lowering springs aren't too expensive!

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#140925 - 01/09/08 09:24 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: mr_al]
daddyp Offline
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would be nice to be lower as standard, but lowering springs aren't too expensive!




yeah i know that, i was just wondering why ford didnt do it as standard?

look at what manufacturers offer to standard cars now - bigger alloy wheels, tuned exhaust note, tinted windows - all as a result of the modifying scene, all to appeal to those that normally would otherwise modify the car
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#140926 - 01/09/08 09:53 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: daddyp]
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I had a 106 before my ST (only a 1.1 though). I loved that car, it served me well and very little went wrong with it.

I wish Ford had made the ST lower as standard, even though it isn't too expensive to get it lowered, it's still money that needn't be spent.
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#140927 - 01/09/08 10:02 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: FluffySheep]
Bradders Offline


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i swear ive heard something like this before, isnt it something to do with the cars dynamics to why its so high up? i mean we all know the ST handles amazing and i think its something to do with the suspension and the way the car is designed? could be wrong

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#140928 - 01/09/08 11:07 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: Bradders]
DAVE T ST Offline
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There's a maximum height that the bottom of the front bumper can be.

ST is at that height, not sure what the measurement is.

TBH I would have spent the money on the ignition and fuelling system to make the engine run as well as it does when fitted in a Mazda, though that's a different story.
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#140929 - 01/09/08 11:43 AM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Also, the ST uses the same springs as the 1.6TDCi. Part count reduction is name of the game in any manufacturing process and the ST is after all an afterthought to the standard fiesta line up.

I've quite happy with the ride hight - I agree that when lowered it looks better but I'm not sure I'd want to sacrafice the ease of use. I travel around some pretty bumpy roads and wouldn't want to ride lower or I'd have to either stiffen it up even more (and shake out my fillings) or risk bottoming out the suspension.

Its all about the B road!

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#140930 - 01/09/08 12:37 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: steve1981]
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i can easily clean under my arches with the large gap (without using a hose pipe, I do like the more lowered look, if you have had Eibachs fitted can I ask whether you can still get your hand underneath ?
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#140931 - 01/09/08 12:56 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: daddyp]
Artstu Offline
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Registered: 20/12/07
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I can just see the add in Max power

No need to change the springs boys, here at Ford we now sell a special Max power ST model with just 1 inch of suspension travel!

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#140932 - 01/09/08 01:25 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: Artstu]
daddyp Offline
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lol
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#140933 - 01/09/08 05:28 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: daddyp]
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LOL +1
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#140934 - 01/09/08 05:44 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: steve1981]
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#140935 - 01/09/08 05:46 PM Re: Why isnt the ST even lower as standard? [Re: cra1g]
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