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#147703 - 27/12/08 07:30 PM Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!!
Garinator Offline
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First of im new to the forums. Ok ive had my Fiesta ST for about 10 months now, and it has about 6000 km on it, so its still new lol, the problem is that every time in the morning, (specially now in winter), i have to warm up my baby for about 10-12 minutes, if not, i just cant move it, the first time i turn it on it usually just dies in 3 or so seconds, next time i pump it 3 times before turning it on and it usually stays on after that, but if i rev it up just a little, the engine starts to die. I took it to the dealership and they told me that its an "error in the valves", and that apareantly some other fiestas around the country have the same problem, (i live in Mexico btw), my question is, have any of you had this problem? if so did you fixed it? how?

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#147704 - 27/12/08 08:16 PM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Garinator]
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it needs an update from sounds like fauly software or ECU so go to a ford dealers and get it on the dignostic machine assuming there is a local dealer in Mexico
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#147705 - 28/12/08 12:53 PM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Anthony1664]
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Hi & Welcome
Can you tell me:
What fuel grade you run your ST on and
What fuel grades are available in Mexico
It sounds like you're running on 91 RON

You shouldn't press the throttle at all while starting whether warm or cold, the ECU does that for you.
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#147706 - 29/12/08 11:15 PM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: DAVE T ST]
Garinator Offline
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Aja!! i think i foud the problem, im running on 92 octane fuel, how bad is that?

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#147707 - 30/12/08 02:16 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Garinator]
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Goodness! Quite bad. The standard fuel here in the UK is 95 with most places stocking "premium" stuff at 97 or 99 octane. I know a few Greek members had problems with the way their cars ran because they had fairly low octane fuel too.
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#147708 - 30/12/08 09:22 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Garinator]
DAVE T ST Offline
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Quote:

Aja!! i think i foud the problem, im running on 92 octane fuel, how bad is that?




Bad!

Try and use at least 95RON and don't press the throttle while starting.
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#147709 - 30/12/08 03:59 PM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: DAVE T ST]
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I found sometimes the only way to start mine is to press the throttle...normally after a short journey
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#147710 - 30/12/08 10:01 PM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Adam08]
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I found sometimes the only way to start mine is to press the throttle...normally after a short journey



This is certainly an ECU problem. Mine used to be a sod to start after short journeys but it was alright after they did something with the GEM module (just an update I think) Now she has never failed to start within a second ....
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#147711 - 31/12/08 12:08 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: DAVE T ST]
Garinator Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

Aja!! i think i foud the problem, im running on 92 octane fuel, how bad is that?




Bad!

Try and use at least 95RON and don't press the throttle while starting.




Im in trouble!! Thats the best i can get, its the best one offered over here, yhea i know it sucks..

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#147712 - 31/12/08 12:21 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Garinator]
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The Fiesta ST engine was set up to run on 95RON, so if you're able to buy that then that's fine, you don't need to go for anything higher than 95.
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#147713 - 31/12/08 12:24 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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Think he meant could only get 92?
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#147714 - 31/12/08 12:34 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: Adam08]
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Arr sorry I'd misread it for meaning that 95 was the highest available. In that case then running on 92RON isn't good. The only other possibility I can think of is are there any additives available which could uprate it, in the same way as ones were available to allow unleaded petrol to be used in older cars after you could no longer buy Four Star? I'm not sure if this is possible though.
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#147715 - 31/12/08 07:44 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Garinator Offline
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hmm that seems like a good idea, gonna do some research

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#147716 - 31/12/08 10:55 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: ChrisCumbria]
DAVE T ST Offline
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Arr sorry I'd misread it for meaning that 95 was the highest available. In that case then running on 92RON isn't good. The only other possibility I can think of is are there any additives available which could uprate it, in the same way as ones were available to allow unleaded petrol to be used in older cars after you could no longer buy Four Star? I'm not sure if this is possible though.





You can buy octane boosters from most car accessory shops and even petrol stations

JUST MAKE SURE ITS NOT ONE THAT CONTAINS LEAD OR A LEAD SUBSTITUTE, you'll kill the cat if you put lead in.
Your car should be mapped to run on 91 unless it's a Euro spec that was imported
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#147717 - 02/01/09 03:03 AM Re: Sart/ warm up problem!!! help!! [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Quote:

Quote:

Arr sorry I'd misread it for meaning that 95 was the highest available. In that case then running on 92RON isn't good. The only other possibility I can think of is are there any additives available which could uprate it, in the same way as ones were available to allow unleaded petrol to be used in older cars after you could no longer buy Four Star? I'm not sure if this is possible though.





You can buy octane boosters from most car accessory shops and even petrol stations

JUST MAKE SURE ITS NOT ONE THAT CONTAINS LEAD OR A LEAD SUBSTITUTE, you'll kill the cat if you put lead in.
Your car should be mapped to run on 91 unless it's a Euro spec that was imported




Yhea, German import, gonna search my local autozone to see what they got, hope this works

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