Getting a zetec s for my 18th cause st insurance is disgustingly high and ive no job

Do you think its still possible to buy the shape before the newest fiesta new from a dealer?

Welcome to the site.
No idea if dealers would have any left. You might get lucky but they have stopped making that shape fez.
Why not go for a year old one? Will save you a fair wedge of cash.
They are great little cars and had mine for 4 years from new.
Also don't dismiss the diesel version. It's very good

I can only find diesel ones that are coming at a real good deal but duno if i fancy diesel. Are they much slower than the petrol?

You would be lucky to get a new one, as they haven't been made since April last year. There possibly are some still available, but even so I'd be more tempted to follow Micky's advice and get a nearly new one that's been driven, rather than one that's been sitting in a field somewhere for at least 14 months.

Theres 08s with 6k miles for 10grand but il have a nosey around still have 2weeks. cheers for the advice guys

Diesel would't be so bad, when insurance allows you could get it chipped to make it that much quicker. Also you'll be enjoying the fuel economy.

£10k for an old shape fiesta sounds a hell of a lot. I got rid of my 07 ST for just ovr £7k through a dealer in part ex. To be honest though private sales were struggling to get much over this. I'd not pay more than £6k for a second hand Fiesta if I were you, they lose too much money.

Doesn't matter too much where you buy from if it's an 08 / 07 plate either as it will still have the dealer warranty. Look around, plenty about.

The diesel is slower to get going but once it get going the mid range torque makes it faster. It will feel faster as well due to how the diesel delivers its power.

The 1.6 Diesel ZS is a great car and holds it's money very, very well, much better than the ST.
Why?:

More torque than the ST, same mid-range performance as the ST, same handling as the ST, bit slower off the mark and much slower top end (though how often will you be going over 115MPH?)
Though you can get them re-mapped to as much as 130BHP and 280NM depending on how much hardware you're willing to upgrade, that's without upgrading the Turbo to a hybrid. Without upgrading any hardware you can re-map to 120 BHP/260NM for around £3-400.
Also they have £35 road tax, group 6 insurance and at least 50+MPG, what more could you ask for.

No brainer really. That's why they fetch more than an ST.

A ford garage can search its database and might just find a ford garage that has one. The ZS is a perfect sensible choice for your age petrol or diesel, the diesel has 10nm more torque than a standard ST. You are very lucky, go for it.

How much is the insurance on the ST?
I can get RS and audi TT insurance for about 1700£ and I'm only 19

ZS is quick through the gears and doesnt feel like your thrashing it like the ST
Although its not the same as having a petrol
The ZS diesel as said before can be mapped to take alot more torque

A new st for me under my dad fully comp is 2600ish. Cant find any ZS so far i really want 1 but my dads taken a liking to the volvo c30

C30 is a fantastic car.
Same (but better turbo'd) engine as the Fiesta ZS (1.6D)
Cheap insurance, 50+MPG (If you go for the Stop/Start)
£35 tax
And evry single mechanical part including the platform is Ford Focus.

assume you mean you insured with Dad as named driver ?

Try getting a quote under your own name was cheaper for me
Add mum or sister if you have one to the policy it will probably bring it down

yea im under my dad. you think that would work because il be 18 duno if it would reduce much though

It'll depend on the insurer mate.

It used to be that it was much cheaper to be a named drive. Problem is the insurance companies have become wiser to this practice and as a result they charge the premium primarily to the highest risk.

the "cheapest" way is for you to insure and add your Parent then you will get your no claims down otherwise buy a cheap none hot hatch. If your dad registers the car or in fact you do But your dad insures with you as a named driver AND You use the car the most, if the insurance finds out/accident occurs the policy will be void.

In my view... if you want a "hot hatch" then be prepared to pay the cost. With the credit crunch insurance companies are really pulling in the strings and pushing the costs up... unfortunatley you are male and a new driver. Be prepared to pay the earth.

P.S It doesn't help much being on a parents insurance as it still goes off the "most liable" person so would ultimatley only save you around 15-20% of the total cost on a hot hatch... which isn't really worth it. If it was a low group 1.4 Fiesta, Corsa etc then you'd probably make a saving of 25-30% which probably would be worth thinking about.

As Scotty said if you want the hot hatch then you have the price tag to go with it
Just don't keep chopping and changing your car like me, go for what you want

They were saying about that on topgear....a friends insurance company basically tricked him into saying it was his car and so had to stump up the extra insurance