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#175122 - 15/08/09 11:35 PM BHP CHIP
baldym75 Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 29
Has anybody fitted those bhp chips that fool the ecu into thinking cold air is in the engine apparently doesnt harm the engine and is road legal and can give 15 to 25 bhp more and they only cost about 6 quid off ebay.

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#175123 - 16/08/09 12:20 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: baldym75]
kenny Offline



Registered: 08/03/08
Posts: 11807
Loc: essex
load of crap dont buy one

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#175124 - 16/08/09 12:29 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: kenny]
Tez Offline


Registered: 03/01/09
Posts: 2509
Loc: Co, DURHAM
Rubbish mate, if they worked everyone would have one.
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#175125 - 16/08/09 09:19 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: Tez]
JJST Offline


Registered: 20/04/07
Posts: 4206
As indicated above, don't touch it, complete waste of money. You can't get that sort of power out of the ST without a lot more modification.
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#175126 - 17/08/09 09:25 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: JJST]
abc Offline


Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 378
really avoid them, waste of money.


this is a review from someone about them, jsut quoted what they have said.........


Quote:

Having been a member of various car forums and been asked whether these 'tuning chips' work a bazillion times by other members, and after seeing how many are being listed on Ebay, i thought it was time to set the record straight on what they are, and the harm they can do to your engine. Firstly, they neither chip or tune your engine - only a proper ECU chip, mapped to suit your car with the correct fuelling/air ratios can tune it (superchip, seb etc) and these are usually 100+ pounds to buy and are a replacement EPROM for the board in your cars ecu. They're NOT a 10p resistor available from any branch of maplins or RS. So what does this resistor actually do? In a nutshell it cons your ecu by sending it false information about the temperature of the air going through the airflow meter or IAT sensor on your cars engine. It basically makes the ecu think the air is much colder than it actually is. The colder the air, the denser it becomes. Dense air (if my physics is right) means that you're getting more oxygen per cubic centimetre (CC) in the combustion chamber which makes the mixture of fuel and air burn hotter, making a bigger bang and creating more power. Its this information that is used by the ecu to adjust the amount of fuel needed for the conditions its sensing, and proper running of the engine. Right, thats the science bit out the way.

So whats the problem with the resistor 'chip' then?? Right.....with one of these resistors fitted, your cars ecu recieves the air temperature info via the resistor which, as said previously, is not an accurate reading of the air temperature going into the throttle body. Because of this, the ecu makes the fuel system of your vehicle deliver fuel at a higher rate than the engine needs. Yes you might feel a small improvement in power (although in some vehicles the opposite is true) but too much or too little fuel is pretty serious as it can lead to detonation, lumpy idle, bore wash, higher emissions, lower mpg and, in extreme cases, even wrecked pistons!! Anyone whose ever had their car in for repairs at a garage will know how costly in terms of inconvenience and money this can be, and dont expect much help from the seller, as the small print on the packaging will state that no liability will be taken for damage caused from use of the product

Please remember what your parents probably told you many times - if something seems too good to be true it most probably is!! There are no tuning mods that deliver 20+ BHP for a couple of quid.....if it was that simple to gain horsepower from an otherwise standard engine car manufacturers development costs would be a lot lower and everyone would own a racing team Unfortunately there are also no shortage of unscrupulous people who are only too happy to relieve you of your hard earned money by promising the earth and delivering a nightmare so research your subject before you buy.....

If you're serious about tuning your engine the best advice i can give you is to go online and join a forum that covers your make and model. This way you can speak to people who have already done it. They will tell you what works and what doesn't, whats good value for money and whats a con, and you'll meet friendly, like minded people as an added bonus

Well thats my tuppence worth - hope reading this has been of some usefulness to you. Please remember to mark it as helpful if it has been

Buy smart, and remember........fire burns! :P






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#175127 - 25/08/09 01:30 PM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: abc]
piero134 Offline


Registered: 23/08/09
Posts: 2
Loc: spain
Hi to all!!
im new to the forum.
well i have my st for the past year now and its time to get a chip for it.
but reading through this thread it looks like you guys dont recomend them.
why not?( for 6 quid i wonder what crap chip that might be but there are decent chips out there sure?)
well im looking for a decent chip , where could I find one?
i also have a fiat coupe 16vTurbo and fitted a chip and the differenece was enormus , i also had to do some other mods but i think that with the ST it should be the same.the turbo engines i now always can make more power but wanted to ask as i dont now much.

many thanks to all.
Piero

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#175128 - 25/08/09 01:35 PM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: piero134]
Bradders Offline


Registered: 26/04/07
Posts: 1148
You dont gain anything by buying a cheap chip for it though? If you read the above carefully it explains that it tricks the ECU into using more fuel and plus causing damage. If you want a bit of power, noise for a small amount of money then purchase a K&N 57i Air Filter. This is a Ford, not a Fiat

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#175129 - 25/08/09 01:47 PM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: Bradders]
DAVE T ST Offline
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Registered: 15/01/06
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You can't chip Black-Oak you have to re-map it through the OBD port by either paying for it to be done live on a rolling road (only if you have major major mods over std) or buying something like a dreamscience or bluefin

Don't waste your money on one until you have at least fitted a full exhaust and flexi and a K&N or similar
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#175130 - 26/08/09 10:04 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: DAVE T ST]
jackstrath Offline


Registered: 24/06/09
Posts: 186
Quote:

You can't chip Black-Oak you have to re-map it through the OBD port by either paying for it to be done live on a rolling road (only if you have major major mods over std) or buying something like a dreamscience or bluefin

Don't waste your money on one until you have at least fitted a full exhaust and flexi and a K&N or similar




^^ what he said , you will see more gains with a exhaust and k&n

chips alone are relly only good for cars that are turboed or supercharged

or unless its a german car and your removing the 155mph limiter :P
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#175131 - 26/08/09 10:33 AM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: jackstrath]
sandyle Offline


Registered: 13/01/09
Posts: 511
Loc: Cambs / Beds
Don't waist your time - if you want an easy way of 'chipping' look at the dreamscience units
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#175132 - 26/08/09 09:23 PM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: sandyle]
piero134 Offline


Registered: 23/08/09
Posts: 2
Loc: spain
thanks for all the info guys.
im going to decat it and fit a K&N filter .

many thanks again.
cheers

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#175133 - 27/08/09 07:07 PM Re: BHP CHIP [Re: piero134]
sandyle Offline


Registered: 13/01/09
Posts: 511
Loc: Cambs / Beds
I'd leave the decat tbh - go for a flexi pipe first or a full system as the most restritive part of the exhaust is between the manifold & cat by all accounts
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