ouch man that stings

im glad to hear everyones ok and the car is only metal and plastic after all

Jack how did they limp from that!!

Good to see your car in good condition!
People like you who make my insurance premiums higher....only joking

+1 What everyone else has said so far...

Glad everyone was ok, from the pics I'm sure you realise how fortunate you were.

set of T1R's, cheap, soft tread and amazing tyres, worth the extra pennies!

To be honest I’m sick of people blaming young drivers ,

It’s not only insulting to those “young drivers” that can actually drive rather than thinking there the best driver in the world, it’s also one of the most over looked stereo typical things to say . Now im not blaming those who have mentioned it in this post , but just the general tone about the younger generation.
Im 19 so im a “young driver” , but yet iv had both my cars to the track , keep it well maintained and know how to handle it , and how to drive it with in a safe limit without putting anyone else at excessive risk (I mean by that , these are cars , they are in general dangerous things), but driving out of your limits (usually the drivers limits are exceeded before the cars ability to perform are) is stupid. And have you seen the amount of young drivier that are in motorsport and are doing well? Dave Weston , he finished 14th in the ulser rally ,he has just turned 19. .
On the road , care has to be taken as you really can’t tell what the conditions are around a corner.
Statistics show that us “young drivers” do make up a good % of crash figgers , and il put my hands up , imo its down to lack of experience behind the wheel and 99% it is , speed is near the bottom for the cause of a collisions , look at Norway do any of you guys/girls know the test they do ! , 1. It’s cool 2. Its almost, if not at the same level of test/course as an advance driving course is to us over here! , and before you say anything , its working
“There has been a remarkable decrease in the number of fatalities in the 15-24 age group. There has also been a decrease in the >65 and 0-14 age groups. On the other hand, fatalities in the 25-64 age group increased up until 2000, before decreasing over the last few years.”
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/jtrc/safety/targets/Performance/TS3-Norway.pdf

I think the tests need to be address, if it works in Norway, it will work in the UK , and maybe instead of the police/government just saying young drivers are bad , maybe do something about it!

ive always agreed with my dad who said that learner drivers should be taken out on a skid pan so they can learn how to control the car in extreme situations.

Bloody Hell! I agree with all things said, but Its bad enough A)being in the car and B)having to deal with it now without everyone on here having a go at him. Im glad your ok buddy, LESSON LEARNED! Now move on and lets encourage on his new car!

I generally agree with Jack, the driving test should be harder, yes, advanced lessons after so many years, yes, etc etc but the underlying problem in the UK is attitude (UK is full of oiks/chavs/wannabees) and complete lack of road policing. Am sure oin Norway people have a lot more respect for their country, the people and their culture.

I thought that car looked bad but look at this Ferrari, cant believe two people got out of it.
Ferrari Crash

Didn't mean to offend Jack , I know its not all young drivers, but I used to think the same when I was 18/19, 'it aint all young driver who are bad!' We're all put into that category of bad young driver and it never goes away just the bad ones making it worse

I cant see that pdf, I aint got adobe atm, but is it anything like Finland? 2 years of leaning (i think) before you can drive and you have to go on skid pans and all sorts of advanced stuff, and agree it should be introduced here

Update:

Just heard from the insruance finally! And they decided there going to pay out £5,090! I'm over the moon with it and defaintly gonna think twice about mods from now on...

Just thought I'd let you all know