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#202983 - 31/03/10 08:42 AM More legalised theft.
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	http://www.stop43.org.uk/ http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=ts&gid=105741059455603 Lots of photographers on the site so sure some will already know about this. Just a quick 5 min letter to your local mp might make a difference. _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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#202984 - 31/03/10 12:29 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Micky]
YellowBadge MountooningTipster Registered: 26/08/07 Posts: 11640 Loc: here	you already own the rights to a photo you take ? _________________________ MR200 Stage 3 200PS Evans Halshaw Mountune Pro
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#202985 - 31/03/10 12:47 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: YellowBadge]
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	We do at the moment. If this gets passed you effectivly loose your copyright. Say someone wants to use your pic. They can go to the gov and say they want to use it. If they can show they have looked for the owner of the pic but not found the owner they pay the gov a small fee and you loose the copyright on your pic and the get to use it Think that makes sense. Yet at the same time the gov are doing what they can to stop the copyright being breached in the music business (illegal music downloads) _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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#202986 - 31/03/10 06:22 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Micky]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23932 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quote: Say someone wants to use your pic. They can go to the gov and say they want to use it. If they can show they have looked for the owner of the pic but not found the owner they pay the gov a small fee and you loose the copyright on your pic and the get to use it Actually more than that from what it says. It seems to be that even if they do know who the photo belongs to they can still use it for commercial purposes without permission simply by paying a fee to the government. _________________________
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#202987 - 31/03/10 10:44 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: ChrisCumbria]
YellowBadge MountooningTipster Registered: 26/08/07 Posts: 11640 Loc: here	what about the papparazzi (press) _________________________ MR200 Stage 3 200PS Evans Halshaw Mountune Pro
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#202988 - 31/03/10 10:45 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: YellowBadge]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	What you mean steve? They take their own photos so can use them... Its only if the original taker can't be found _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#202989 - 31/03/10 11:13 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Adam08]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23932 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quote: Its only if the original taker can't be found No, if you read it closely it means that anyone can use someones photos regardless of whether the taker can be found as long as they pay a fee to the government. _________________________
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#202990 - 31/03/10 11:24 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Kev Registered: 01/03/06 Posts: 10490 Loc: Birmingham, UK.	What a complete joke! I havn't looked at it yet, but does it mean they can make money from other peoples pics if they have the sources? _________________________
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#202991 - 01/04/10 11:55 AM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Kev]
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	Quote: I havn't looked at it yet, but does it mean they can make money from other peoples pics if they have the sources? In short yes. As long as they say they can't find the owner. The photographer suffers by not getting paid and the gov and end user get gains for doing nothing. _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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#202992 - 08/04/10 04:49 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Micky]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	Looks like its been dropped _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#202993 - 08/04/10 05:24 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Adam08]
Micky Site Supporter Registered: 01/03/05 Posts: 11552 Loc: Westbury-on-severn, Gloucester...	Thats good news Adam. I havn't had a chance to look at it today. Just wonder if they will try and just slip it in un-noticed? _________________________ My Flickr My Facebook
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#202994 - 08/04/10 05:34 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Micky]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23932 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quote: Just wonder if they will try and just slip it in un-noticed? It shouldn't do. The Digital Bill was passed by the Commons yesterday, so the House of Lords would have to pass an amendment to re-insert the clause. If that happenned then it would have to go back to the Commons to be voted on again, and there wouldn't be time before the election. _________________________
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#202995 - 08/04/10 05:49 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	Whats the digital bill? _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#202996 - 08/04/10 05:55 PM Re: More legalised theft. [Re: Adam08]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23932 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	It's a bill about all sorts of things to do with digital media. Apart from this issue - which was removed - it covers various things including forcing ISPs to disconnect customers for illegal downloading, and paving the way for analogue radio to be switched off in (I think) 2015. _________________________
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