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#36504 - 20/02/06 07:04 PM Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT
PinkRinse Offline
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When you have your car serviced, as we all know, the dealer/garage who services it puts their stamp on the Service Record page. On the next page is the Body and Paint Record, which should also be stamped at each service to verify that a body and paint inspection has been carried out.

If the Body and Paint Record is not stamped at each service, the rust warranty is null and void........

The trouble is I phoned FMCRC (Customer Relationship Centre) and the guy I spoke to said from an official Ford point of view you must get this stamp done along with the service to keep the warranty. From a personal point of view he said it isnt perhaps always needed as long as the dealership is reasonable and the problem is reported quickly. I was also told that Ford only give you seven days to report a defect. If you dont report it within this time they dont have to do a thing. They can turn around and say you let the problem drag on and get significantly worse.

The next problem with this stamp is that it is an extra cost on top of the service as it isnt included! The FMCRC guy said they try and encourage their dealerships to sell this service to the customer (of course they would) but not all of them do and it should cost around £10-15. The bodywork person walks round your car, inspects it, does a check sheet, you see the check sheet, agree/disagree and thats it, book is stamped.

I suggest if you think this is going to affect you (for us long term owners) or if it bothers you anyway, to speak to your dealership.
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#36505 - 09/04/06 01:38 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: PinkRinse]
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hehe had my first service and i asked them to stamp it and they did. no extra charge lol
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#36506 - 09/04/06 01:46 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: DanST]
Scotty Offline
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Very good advice there Pinky.

I think everyone should take note of this and make sure its done at the services.

I always ask to watch when they do my service to make sure they do it properly... at my dealership they are very good and do everything very well but I have heard of some that don't so it's always good to see what they do.
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#36507 - 09/04/06 02:26 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Scotty]
chrisST Offline
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They did mine without having to be asked and did not charge me, seems like another thing that varies from garage to garage.
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#36508 - 09/04/06 02:59 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: chrisST]
ChrisCumbria Offline

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I've actually got my first service coming up this Thursday, they might have done it without asking for it, but when I rang up to book it in specifically mentionned for them to do this, just to be on the safe side.
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#36509 - 09/04/06 07:51 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Scotty Offline
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Good Idea Chris, make sure you don't get charged for it... make sure the stamps done and smile at them
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#36510 - 09/04/06 09:05 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Scotty]
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#36511 - 08/02/07 01:43 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: ST_Cruzer_06]
Iceman Offline
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Registered: 27/09/06
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Loc: Bradford.
according to the service portfolio book on my st the body and paintwork check is due on the 2nd service (2nd year of ownership)and not the first sevice however certain other models,galaxy,streetka,its checked every year,strange.
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#36512 - 08/02/07 05:37 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Iceman]
PinkRinse Offline
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I'd get it done every year just to cover yourself. Mine wasnt done in the first service either.
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#36513 - 10/05/07 12:19 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: PinkRinse]
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Good afternoon,

This is a bit of a grey area and for anyone who does not have the inspection side of the portfolio stamped, it is irrelevant as the repairs must be honoured under the terms and conditions of the manufacturers warranty unless thay were caused by external influnces, stone chips etc.

Ford should not be refusing a claim based on the inspection book not being stamped as long as it is repurted within the warranty period. However not all customer's know this and I recommend that it is always questioned if declined.

Hope this helps.

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#36514 - 01/06/07 09:48 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Tartanbloke]
fordi2003 Offline
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rust? is fiesta galvanized like the focus?

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#36515 - 10/08/07 08:10 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: fordi2003]
steve24 Offline
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Registered: 06/08/07
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Loc: Newbury, Berkshire
Its basically an annual check, so doesnt always tie up with a service i.e if your doing 20k a year your going to have a service at 12.5k before the year is up.
In my experience, Ford are very tight on this and if there is a stamp missing it will just get thrown out. Also if there is evidence a panel has been repaired before i.e been accident damagaged, however minor it maybe, they will say nope. To be fair if they can riggle they will!

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#36516 - 11/02/09 06:06 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: steve24]
Spiers Offline
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Have any of you guys had white specs on your paintwork. Ive only had my car afew weeks but noticed after i washed it white specs were there. Wouldnt come off with sponge or shammy, only with nail. Still had the red paint underneath so they wernt chips, but not sure if it was salt, but i would of thought a power wash would of removed it all.

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#36517 - 24/03/09 09:10 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: PinkRinse]
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Quote:

When you have your car serviced, as we all know, the dealer/garage who services it puts their stamp on the Service Record page. On the next page is the Body and Paint Record, which should also be stamped at each service to verify that a body and paint inspection has been carried out.

If the Body and Paint Record is not stamped at each service, the rust warranty is null and void........

The trouble is I phoned FMCRC (Customer Relationship Centre) and the guy I spoke to said from an official Ford point of view you must get this stamp done along with the service to keep the warranty. From a personal point of view he said it isnt perhaps always needed as long as the dealership is reasonable and the problem is reported quickly. I was also told that Ford only give you seven days to report a defect. If you dont report it within this time they dont have to do a thing. They can turn around and say you let the problem drag on and get significantly worse.

The next problem with this stamp is that it is an extra cost on top of the service as it isnt included! The FMCRC guy said they try and encourage their dealerships to sell this service to the customer (of course they would) but not all of them do and it should cost around £10-15. The bodywork person walks round your car, inspects it, does a check sheet, you see the check sheet, agree/disagree and thats it, book is stamped.

I suggest if you think this is going to affect you (for us long term owners) or if it bothers you anyway, to speak to your dealership.




Thanks for this info. I'll bear this in mind for my first service.

Cheers

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#36518 - 24/03/09 09:40 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Test]
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I was charged a fiver for my bodywork check, worth it though.
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#36519 - 16/03/10 12:06 AM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Tez]
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I wounder if you can get this done on its own. I service it my self It is so easy . oil oil filter, sump plug and washer , air filter , fuel filter, plugs,I dont bother with the pollen filter as I dont get hay fever ,
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#36520 - 16/03/10 12:12 AM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: stowner]
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You can because I went and had it done at my local dealership. Worth the few mins and £8 imo.
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#36521 - 16/03/10 12:23 AM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: PinkRinse]
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cool I'm defo goona get this done
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#36522 - 06/06/10 10:33 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: stowner]
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Ok. I have read my service book from back to front and there is not mention of the actual paint/body check interval. When I had my first year service I rang 3 different dealers and they all said that its the second year it needs doing.
(check the ford techincal web site :- www.etis.ford.com , as it gives all the services stuff for for car on every year.

I have just had my second year service done 5 days ago and it had the paint/body check done then.
Only this morning I have noticed on the back door just below the bottom of the window then paint is bubbling in 2-3 places - OMFG. So it looks like they did'nt do he check correctly. As far as I am concerned this should not happen on a 2 year old car that is looked after and cleaned/polished with the dealers own recommended polish. But from the Warranty details it looks like this had to happen in the first year, and for it now to be a Corrosion protection warranty it has to be a perforatted hole - So they expect me to wait till the corrosion has made a nice big rust patch then a hole over a few years before they will do anything. This seems stupid. I am going to find out this week.

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#36523 - 07/06/10 01:00 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Oracle9I]
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I have had three fords all repaired under the paintwork warranty and one of them was five years old, my RS had a new A pillar, my 54 plate fiesta ghia had the door seams repaired and the same with my dads mondeo ghia x, all i had to show was the cars service history and paintwork stamps.
Get in touch with ford customer service, if you leave it, its only going to cost more to repair in the longterm. They will try and fob you off so keep at them.
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#36524 - 07/06/10 05:36 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Tez]
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It seems now they've changed it to every 2 years but I still get mine done every year at a garage just for the stamp and peace of mind. For £8 or so its worth it in my book.
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#36525 - 07/06/10 05:38 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: PinkRinse]
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My dealers charge me a fiver, but the cost of living is cheaper in the north east lol.
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#36526 - 07/06/10 11:45 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Tez]
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Update:-

Spoke to Dealer and Tomoorow I have to take it to the dealer and Ford approved accident and body work repair place whihc is a seperate company (advance accident repair in Chesterfield).
So hopefully I won't get the normal bull from a dealer about not being covered under warranty.
I will keep this post updated how I get on.

Read the Car Manual this morning and it just recommends cleaning the car regulary and waxing it 1-2 times a year. So not speacial car cleaning instructions what so ever.
Oracle9i.

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#36527 - 16/06/10 11:31 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Oracle9I]
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Loc: Nottinghamshire
Update 2:-
Got a call the other day from the paint/repair place from their warranty guy advsing that it needs the paint stamp every year ????
I rang 2 different ford dealers and both advised its every 2 years. One even rang ford direct to check and Ford Advised that from 2006 for fiesta's the paint check is every 2 years. (not sure if its Fiestas bought after 2006 or all years).
So I advised the paint/repair place to send the fault details to ford warranty.
So I am still waiting to for the out come.
Oracle9i.

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#36528 - 19/06/10 12:11 AM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Oracle9I]
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how did this turn out Oracle9i? btw what color is your car?

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#36529 - 27/06/10 11:33 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: fordi2003]
Oracle9I Offline
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Loc: Nottinghamshire
Update 3:-
It is not going very well.
Ford have got back to the repairers and said they won't cover it. Their excuse is that it is a paint fault and I should have spotted it in the first year !!

WTF it has only just started and its travelling from under the window panel(glass). The repairer also said that it does'nt look good to ford that only a week earlier it had its paint check by the dealer and it was not picked up. I advised them that it is easily missed and its not my F****** fault that the dealer's mecanics can not see properly.

Any way So I went straight up to the dealer who I bought the car off got out the sales manger and showed him and told him I was not happy with the situation. I explained that you could forgive it if the car was 6 years old, but it was only 2, I also explained that I was using their recommended Jewelbrite diamond bright car wash and wax. He has taken my details and is going to speak to Ford warranty him self.

I still have an Ace up my sleve though :- Its the Sales of good act. Which I have been looking into and it turns out that the dealer who sold me the car is responsible for repairs on any faulty part of the car that has not been mis-treated or abused. This is up to 6 years. It turns out that retailers start to panic when customers mention this act as they are reliing on customers being ignorate to consumer laws.
The part of the act is not fit for purpose, which currently that part of the paint work is not fit for purpose.

Oracle9i.

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#36530 - 12/07/10 11:50 PM Re: Paintwork & rust warranty - IMPORTANT [Re: Oracle9I]
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Loc: Nottinghamshire
RESULT !!!

I contacted Ford Customer Services direct (Not the Warranty side) and explained the whole situation and My feelings about the lack of help with the paint work fault.

They investigated the situation and came to the conclusion that even though they expect any paint faults to appear in the first year, it was a fault and they would pay a token amount for the respray.

The token amount exceeds the cost of the re-spray, so nothing to Pay.

Oracle9I.

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