#372120 - 01/12/11 08:34 AM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
[Re: Davest]
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Lol just read some of the mail online and saw jeremy clarkson said something controversial (yet again), i never saw it but a lot of people have got offended lol? im guessing it was a joke..
lol yeh he said they should all be shot 
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#372125 - 01/12/11 02:00 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
[Re: Kaxe]
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I'm self employed and get taxed the bollocks out of... 
You need a better accountant then mate! I paid £300 last year after earning 20k 
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#372127 - 01/12/11 03:13 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
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at the end of the day the public sector (STILL get good pensions... even if they do have to add more into the pot). At the end of the day... you're getting it back + government final salary contribution.
Dispute isn't over having a good pension. P/s pensions are average to ok. It's having them changed to pay more and get less out of it. Conrtibutions are going up but your final pension goes down.
Put into into car terms. You buy an  on finance for 25k. Half way through the finance company say sorry your not having the 2.5 turbo any more and were giving you a 1.6 petrol engine but you still have to pay the 25k. You'd be pretty pissed!
You get a state pension which comes out of your NI. £100 a week basic isn't much but is something. I can't comment much more on private pensions as i don't have any kind of pension scheme thanks to being out of work and going bankrupt a few yrs ago.
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The last government
I take it your a conservative supporter
The last point is a piss take really. Private sector workers don't realsie how much of a deal they get out of p/s workers. Stus numbers for one.
Or a comparison like for like jobs public vs private
My Mum again.
Working as a hr manager in the biggest secondary school in basingstoke earned 18k a year. For a similar sized organisation in private that was 35k a year.
Her current job is managing all the training for teachers in hampshire. A similar job at bp but with a fraction of the sites( i have a friend who did it) was on a 6 fiqure salary. You get my Mum doing it for just under 40k a year + a pension which won't compare to a private one in that situation.
The reason she is still in public. Despite the age laws regarding work she wouldn't have a chance getting that kind of job being 54 recession or no recession.
Both cases above seem like a bargain to me.
Maybe public sector workers should say ok then take our pensions and put our wages in line with the private sector?
For teachers that would add atleast 1/4 their wages instantly.
Private gp's earn in excess of 250k a yr. Your gp at the moment earns 90k.
That would give private sector works something to really winge about.
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I'm self employed and get taxed the bollocks out of...
You need a better accountant then mate! I paid £300 last year after earning 20k
I know a good accountant. Managed to get a 45ft boat down as a business expence to claim the vat back. The company was a builders 
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#372128 - 01/12/11 04:38 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
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I'm self employed and get taxed the bollocks out of...
You need a better accountant then mate! I paid £300 last year after earning 20k
s**t a pay double that 
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#372129 - 01/12/11 04:55 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
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Micky, you would be surprised now days... old jobs may be like this but new ones are deffinatley not. Pubic and Private are very similar for new jobs. The Public sector also get much more help with mortgages and obviously their pension. Doctors generally are not soely employed by the private sector. The likes of BUPA etc use the same doctors as NHS which work outside their hours or a couple of times a week and obviously get paid vastly more money... understandable really as they are specialists and working outside their hours. Your example of the to the 1.6 is a little vast. It would simply be an without the sat nav installed. They don't lose their added £100... they simply need to pay this in to get the top contribution which will allow them the full final salary pay. At current if they don't pay the extra £100 they won't get the full top up. Where is my pension in all this whinging by them?
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#372130 - 01/12/11 07:29 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
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I'm self employed and get taxed the bollocks out of...
You need a better accountant then mate! I paid £300 last year after earning 20k
s**t a pay double that
Us 4 partners end up paying a shed load more combined as we earn a lovely amount 
Shame, as we work hard too
What can ya do... 
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#372132 - 01/12/11 09:00 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
[Re: Scotty]
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Your example of the to the 1.6 is a little vast. It would simply be an without the sat nav installed. They don't lose their added £100... they simply need to pay this in to get the top contribution which will allow them the full final salary pay. At current if they don't pay the extra £100 they won't get the full top up. Where is my pension in all this whinging by them?
YES we are being asked to pay more to receive our same projected pension
NO current final salary scheme ends entirely, only what is in it now will grow but further contributions cease as the scheme ends, this pot will dwindle and whatever is left in it you can take at age 60.
All new contributions will commmence into the new scheme on ave career salary and taken at state pension age, for me 66.
as can be seen I will no longer get a pension at 60 or be able to retire, this is the same as state pension for women only to some degree that is being staggered, ie women who could claim state pension at 60 now have to wait until 65 as per men do.
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#372133 - 01/12/11 09:10 PM
Re: so, any public sector workers about
[Re: YellowBadge]
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I agree with raising the age, why should public be able to retire earlier than private, you can't say the jobs are harder, not saying they are easier either
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