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#403628 - 29/02/12 12:36 PM Decisions....165/185
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Hi, I'm getting my ST mountuned in June but I'm having trouble deciding which to go for, I'm leaning towards the 185 as my driving is mostly on A roads to and from work but I have a few concerns from reading the other thread by igotnobrakes.

With the 185, how does it handle slow traffic (some days I can be sitting in stop start traffic for 10 mins or so, mostly low gear 1st/2nd). At the moment with my standard ST it can steadily pick up (I don't mean flooring it) from 1200rpm in 1st/2nd/3rd with no problems, how does the 185 cope as I know torque lower down the rev range is lower than that of a normal ST?

I guess I'm asking if during normal driving does it become more of a chore to drive? Cheers.

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#403629 - 29/02/12 12:43 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: Ad89]
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Think you'll find everything you need to know about either here:

http://www.fordfiestast.co.uk/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=364273&an=0&page=1#364273

Hope this helps!
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#403630 - 29/02/12 01:03 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: FroSTy]
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#403631 - 29/02/12 01:36 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: w3dal]
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#403632 - 29/02/12 01:50 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: w3dal]
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185 across the revs is very smooth, a great deal moreso than I was expecting, it picks up in low gears easily without fuss just not as quick as 165.
The only issue is, slowing down in gear, it will grumble far earlier and want a change down or a declutch sooner than standard/165. For your example this would be bit tiresome, you would set off in 1st, into 2nd and if the traffic immediately slowed again and your almost up the bumper then 2nd would be grumbling and wanting a declutch because you have only travelled a few yards. Pretty mutch all cars do this anyway, just need to adapt to the conditions and let gaps open up so you can get the revs up and allow more time to declutch.
Didn't bother me too much when in stop/start queues, just trickled off and freewheeled a little bit out of gear or knock it out of gear just before it grumbles prior to coming to a stop.
As I say, it's like any car that you leave in gear too long as your slowing and it wants to stall unless you change down, a cammed car just does it sooner.
I think you would be okay with it, but definitely not for busy city centres on a regular basis.
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#403633 - 29/02/12 06:34 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: YellowBadge]
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I went straight for the 185 and I love it but I do sometimes miss a bit of the torque low down when pulling out quick at roundabouts and stuff.but that rarely.happens. I use mine in stop start traffic and its ok I just leave it in first
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#403634 - 01/03/12 10:26 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: gary4vicky]
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Depends on your driving style mate, could always do one stage at a time lol.
As I do alot of crappy rush hour driving I did like the 165 more, but even mountune said my 185 was very lumpy.
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#403635 - 02/03/12 12:01 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: Stig]
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strange mines been alright and the idle on it isnt too bad. did they say why it was lumpy?
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#403636 - 02/03/12 04:46 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: gary4vicky]
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Nope never gave me a good reason, just some are more lumpy then others lol
So I thought bugger it and went 200

I put a before and after rolling road results on my project thread if you’re interested, hopfully adding 200 soon lol
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#403637 - 07/03/12 09:41 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: Stig]
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Well I phoned Mountune today and spoke to Doug, very helpful. With the money I'll save by going direct, it looks like a 3 hour trip down to Mountune in June. Decided on the 185, but would like to sit in one ideally to make my mind up totally! Just need to save up as well

One thing I've noticed is all these gearbox failures recently, how do they cope with the mountune upgrades, any one ever had any trouble? Cheers!


Edited by killeruk (07/03/12 09:42 PM)

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#403638 - 07/03/12 09:50 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: Ad89]
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Well I phoned Mountune today and spoke to Doug, very helpful. With the money I'll save by going direct




if you dont mind me asking what sort of prices was he quoting? im looking at the 165 hopefully this year and their HQ is 20 mins from my house so ill be going there to get it done
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#403639 - 07/03/12 10:07 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: sxkopite8]
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Can't remember the 165 price, but I will let you know tomorrow (I wrote it down at work), but the 185 price was £2050. The quotes I've had from around here have been £2340-£2500.

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#403640 - 07/03/12 10:16 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: Ad89]
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not a bad fitting price then when the 185 kit is advertised at nearly £1900!
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#403641 - 07/03/12 10:29 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: sxkopite8]
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seem to be the none MT cars with other problems...............
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#403642 - 07/03/12 10:48 PM Re: Decisions....165/185 [Re: YellowBadge]
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Yeah I hadn't seen any, but thought I would ask anyway. Thanks

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