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#457981 - 22/08/12 08:46 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup ***** [Re: nosnow3]
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at current my alternator produces 13.7 volts to the battery, anything between 12v-16v is good, id be a little worried if it was too high.

but my car at the moment when winding down the windows i loose about 100rpm off idle and then it pops back up same with my headlights if do both at the same time the car hits 500rpm and jumps back up quite violently, this is another thing im hoping a new battery will resolve i only had a new alternator fitted last year but is certainly putting the right volts out.

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#457982 - 22/08/12 09:17 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: cherie]
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So every ST is meant to have the revs drop that low on choke that it stalls? Sorry, but that just sounds like the typical Ford bollocks for 'we don't really know and we don't really care'.




Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

Tomorrow ill see if i need to replace my baterty. We have a small mesuring decice that tell if it's ok or not.
Going tO change the sparkplugs also. I think the problem is mechanical. I got the map from Bluefin and it'a still idling bad. When the engine is warm, the idling is good. All the fiesta's do it. I'm going to find out what's wrong. Give me some time to check @ Ford.
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#457983 - 22/08/12 10:02 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: dedafmonteur]
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My st does this stason winding windows down etc

My mates focus did it

My old 1.4 mk6 did it (was fun as you could almost get a tune from the exhaust)

Motors will always pull a lot of current and consume power from your engine

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#457984 - 22/08/12 11:22 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: nosnow3]
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Pretty sure they all do it by a very small amount. Make sure your battery acid is topped up!
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#457985 - 24/08/12 08:42 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: Jack_P]
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first chance to try out this new sensor today from a complete cold start. made no difference, i tried giving the engine a chance to breathe without my foot on the throttle to give it a hand and it did then stall so its obviously not that.

back to the garage for a second diagnosis
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#457986 - 24/08/12 08:50 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: sxkopite8]
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I'm allao working on it.

Tomorrow i can use the Ford garage the while day. We're closed but i can get in;).
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#457987 - 24/08/12 08:54 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: dedafmonteur]
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Hope you have some luck, this is beginning to annoy me now.

Hopefully people are reading this, for everyone who's had this problem can you list out your current details so I can show them to the garage.

I'm talking car production year, current mileage, what mods (if any). May help them look for a pattern.

killeruk you've said there's a similar thread going on STOC. can u get similar details from them as well

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#457988 - 24/08/12 09:26 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: sxkopite8]
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I tried:

- mapping
- sparkplugs
- fuelfilter
- finding error codes (special device)
- tested cam and rock shaft sensor
- tested the innectors

No result.
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#457989 - 24/08/12 11:05 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: dedafmonteur]
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Whys no one changed a coil pack yet?

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#457990 - 25/08/12 09:12 AM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: nosnow3]
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i have and did nothing.

different battery nothing

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#457991 - 25/08/12 11:02 AM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: STASON]
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i ordered new spark leads (racing ones). maybe it's that.

i tried a lot. I think it might be a sensor that we're overlooking.
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#457992 - 25/08/12 05:30 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: dedafmonteur]
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I have the KV85s and it still happens sometimes so I doubt they'll fix it.

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#457993 - 26/08/12 09:28 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: Milky]
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I can give it a shot though....

Ok. I need some info for my list. I made a list of all the sensors in the fiesta so i can eliminate them one by one.

- does the car have a bad idle atba cold startup? And after like 10/20 min it's mich better?
- is it worse when it's cold/damp outside?

Please all answer!!
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#457994 - 26/08/12 10:00 PM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: dedafmonteur]
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Happens for around 20-30seconds, 15 seconds after start up when its cold. If its been driven ad its sligtly warm or still upto temp it doesnt do it.
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#457995 - 27/08/12 09:24 AM Re: Revs dropping on startup [Re: Jack_P]
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Might have found the problem.

Going do test it out today!
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