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#464604 - 11/09/12 12:54 PM Nurburging Visits
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	I know a few people are keen to go or are going, as I've been to the Nurburgring twice I though I'd make a post dedicated to the Ring with bits of info that I've picked up. Hopefully this will help others who want to go. The Ring is such an easy trip to do I'm seriously surprised that more people I know haven't gone. Before you go If you're planning on going I seriously recommend you get hold of racing game that has the Nurburgring on it and do as many laps on it as you can. The track is about 13 miles long and a few of the corners will quite easily catch you out if you don't know what to expect. They'll never be exactly the same but you'll get a very good picture of what each corner is like. You need to make sure: You book a hotel You take out European Brake Down Cover Your car insurance covers you for driving in Europe. (You need to be 18 to drive in Germany with a UK license) and add anyone else that will share the driving. This policy will not cover you when on track. You book a method of crossing the Channel. I've used the Eurotunnel twice and it's completely painless but you could always use the ferry Buy a European Travel kit. You need a Reflective Jacket per person, warning triangle, breathalisers (I think per person...), Spare bulb kit, First aid kit, GB sticker/magnet if your number plate doesn't have one on it, headlight converters That seems like a big kit list buy you can buy them complete. I got mine from Halfords, I just needed to get an extra hi vis jacket and the breathalisers. You also need paperwork Both parts of your driving license for each driver Proof of car insurance The cars' V5C Any hotel/ferry/train booking confirmation emails Passports Have a look on the AA's website This list may change so double check before going. I'd also recommend having a Sat Nav with European maps. I love mine and it works perfectly but maps work too. Other things I think are worth taking: Engine Oil Lots of water for the engine. I took 5L incase it broke and I needed to top it up again. I filled up a used bottle of Screen wash Basic tool kit, you'll never know if you'll need it I also took duck tape and cling film. It sounds stupid but I managed to bodge a repair to a coolant pipe using these two things so they're worth taking imo Kitchen roll, helps if you want to check the oil or if you make a mess snacking on the way Old towel. Just in case... I go food shopping before I leave too. Buying lots of water and bits of snack food will keep costs down considerably. Remember that it's a long way to go and when you get there you'll abuse the car and you still have to drive back so prep the car before you leave. Make sure things like brakes and tires are ok, oil is topped up etc. On The Way I love an early morning so I always book an early channel crossing. This means that I get to the Ring about mid afternoon and have a bit of time to relax and go see what is going on. Remember to drive on the wrong side of the road! For the first few hours it's not too bad as it's all motorway and you soon get used overtaking, but the last bit of the journey is all much tighter roads. Approach junctions slowly and look LEFT first, not right! Roundabouts mess with my head too, you obviously go the opposite way round but it does feel weird for a while At the Nurburgring Make sure that your tyre pressures are ok and the car is in decent condition. As I said before, you'll be driving the car pretty hard for about 13 miles so it's worth taking a minute or two to check tyres and oil. The track is surprisingly quiet when it first opens compared to lunch time, IMO it is so worth getting up that little bit earlier to make the most of a quiet track You need to go and purchase laps from a very small building right next to the barriers. You can buy varying amounts. The more you buy the cheaper it is per lap. A single lap costs 26 Euros, 4 laps costs 95 etc When going round, make sure your driving is smooth, deliberate and that you are aware of what is behind you. Sudden moves or harsh braking in corners will unsettle the car which could be dangerous Pick your line through the corners and stick to it. If people catch you up it's their job to pass you safely. Any attempt to get out of their way mid corner could end badly People will catch you up at stupidly quick speeds, make sure you are extremely aware of what is behind you and where the track is going. As people catch you up, indicate right and move over to the right side of the track and let them pass. This is what is supposed to happen but be aware that some people just pass where ever there is a gap IMO, don't time your lap. You will only encourage yourself to push harder and you may push beyond the limits of your car or driving skill I think I've covered most of it. If anyone has any questions then please ask and I'll add it into the original post _________________________ Flickr
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#464605 - 11/09/12 01:01 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	This is perfect for me Duncan! Can this be made into a sticky if it's not already? _________________________
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#464606 - 11/09/12 01:14 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Stephlar]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Yarp Just ask if you have any questions _________________________ Flickr
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#464607 - 11/09/12 01:15 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Stephlar]
ST_Lee Site Supporter Registered: 17/09/08 Posts: 8873 Loc: Blackpool	Good Work buddy _________________________
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#464608 - 11/09/12 01:50 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: ST_Lee]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Thanks _________________________ Flickr
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#464609 - 11/09/12 03:46 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
steffipoo Site Supporter Registered: 29/11/10 Posts: 586 Loc: Leeds	good plan duncan, just one thing to note that I'm sure certain countries on the way eg france dont allow speed camera notificatons/detections on sat navs or road angels etc.. something worth checking? there are also companies that can isure you for track days but you need to make sure they cover it for The Ring and just to be aware it probably only insures you and your car, not anyone elses or the track. _________________________ Didn't stay standard for long.... tints decat pipe now need to save up again <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#464610 - 11/09/12 04:08 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: steffipoo]
ROB IS THE STIG The South East Massive Registered: 21/05/06 Posts: 50824 Loc: Kent	Great source of info mate, nice one _________________________ > CLICK HERE FOR MY MOTORSPORT & TRACKDAY VIDEOS <
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#464611 - 11/09/12 04:13 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
kenny Registered: 08/03/08 Posts: 11806 Loc: essex	Quote: Great source of info mate, nice one +1
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#464612 - 11/09/12 04:46 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: steffipoo]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Quote: good plan duncan, just one thing to note that I'm sure certain countries on the way eg france dont allow speed camera notificatons/detections on sat navs or road angels etc.. something worth checking? there are also companies that can isure you for track days but you need to make sure they cover it for The Ring and just to be aware it probably only insures you and your car, not anyone elses or the track. From what I've read on the internet, you are correct in saying that your sat nav knowing the location of speed cameras in France or having a device that can detect them is illegal, but a sat nav can give you the rough location. An update of the device and European maps should bring it up to date with the new laws. I've never looked into track insurance, something people might want to consider before going. _________________________ Flickr
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#464613 - 11/09/12 08:03 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	in france sat navs have to be able to turn the cameras off, if you cant deactivate it you cant even travel with it in the car or they can fine you the maximum speeding fine they have as they see it you are only using it so you can speed Edited by Dan_The_Man (11/09/12 08:03 PM) _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#464614 - 12/09/12 12:22 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Dan_The_Man]
Anthony1664 My real name is Dave Registered: 27/04/06 Posts: 4703 Loc: Always on here these days !!!	Most updates of SatNavs now have French cameras disabled as standard _________________________ The Mk6 Fiesta grew in size & became a Mk3 Mondeo it now it's shrinking to a Mk3.5 Focus ST3
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#464615 - 15/09/12 06:32 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Anthony1664]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Most updates of SatNavs now have French cameras disabled as standard I actually found this with my Origin B2 in 2008. Luckily Spain was re-activated Fantastic guide Duncan! Really helpful My list was a little longer than that when i drove to Kefalonia but you've covered everything you would need getting to Germany and back. _________________________
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#464616 - 06/10/12 10:32 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Been on RAC website, it says that for Belgium ill need a fire extinguisher? Anyone else bothered with this?? _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#464617 - 06/10/12 10:46 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: sxkopite8]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23756 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	I got one for when I've driven in Europe in the past. There's not too expensive, I think mine was about £15, and you only need to get a small one, car ones aren't massive like the ones you have at work. _________________________
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#464618 - 06/10/12 10:46 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: sxkopite8]
kenny Registered: 08/03/08 Posts: 11806 Loc: essex	Quote: Been on RAC website, it says that for Belgium ill need a fire extinguisher? Anyone else bothered with this?? i bought 1 at ford fair last year cheap as chips,but to be on the safe side i would say buy one as you never know
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#464619 - 06/10/12 10:48 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: ChrisCumbria]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Quote: and you only need to get a small one, car ones aren't massive like the ones you have at work. this made me laugh so much at the thought of carrying round a full size one from work Cheers Chris and Kenny, will pick one up today _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#464620 - 07/10/12 06:58 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: sxkopite8]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	I haven't had one every time I've gone. Didnt realise you needed one... _________________________ Flickr
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#464621 - 07/10/12 07:07 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Duff Site Supporter Registered: 01/01/10 Posts: 2986 Loc: Flanders, Belgium	I don't have one either lol _________________________
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#464622 - 08/10/12 07:50 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Quote: Didnt realise you needed one... some websites say you do need one and others dont. Im guessing its more a recommended thing but for the sake of £15 then i was happy getting one _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#464623 - 05/02/13 12:18 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: sxkopite8]
kenny Registered: 08/03/08 Posts: 11806 Loc: essex	has anyone seen the new rules if not then ◦Bucket seats with ‘ears’ (as the Germans delightfully refer to them) are not allowed. Those are the seats with wrap-around head restraints. ◦The famous Hans device neck-restraint is also banned from public driving. ◦Roll cages with doorbars that restrict access are banned. ◦Roll cages must be padded. Not with proper FIA crash-absorbing materials. Nobody will check that. Just any old foam will do. ◦Aftermarket snap-off steering wheels are also verboten. Road legal race cars no longer welcome It sounds bad, but there’s already a bunch of banning reasons you won’t find written down anywhere, stuff like wings made of aluminium (except for Porsche 997 GT3 RS Mk2s), rotary-release harness clasps (except for those on Porsches) and any wings or canards that protrude beyond the width of the body (except for those on the Porsche GT3.RS 4.0). Obviously these rules are there to try and keep the race cars out of the public traffic, and there’s an official notice period on the enforcement of them until April 30 allegedly... 250 euros drifting penalty Yes, they’ve put it in writing at last. No drifting. And they’re even backing up all of these rules with a 250 euros fine that you’re supposed to have agreed to pay simply by reading the contract and driving the track. Much like we all read the End User License Agreement on every new piece of software we install or phone that we buy.
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#464624 - 05/02/13 05:50 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: kenny]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23756 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quote: Road legal race cars no longer welcome It sounds bad, but there’s already a bunch of banning reasons you won’t find written down anywhere, stuff like wings made of aluminium (except for Porsche 997 GT3 RS Mk2s), rotary-release harness clasps (except for those on Porsches) and any wings or canards that protrude beyond the width of the body (except for those on the Porsche GT3.RS 4.0). Which country is Porsche from, and where's the Nurburgring again? _________________________
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#464625 - 05/02/13 09:40 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: ChrisCumbria]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	it is a bit of a joke tbh, they dont care about safety is what they are declaring! it wont stop me going _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#464626 - 07/02/13 01:58 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Dan_The_Man]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	If people are going in Sept then i should be able to get the Clio out for this trip. Would be nice to take a trip around the ring _________________________
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#464627 - 07/02/13 02:10 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Jodiebizzle bizzle Registered: 14/11/11 Posts: 5000	Yay you can use it for what it's meant for opening times still not been released yet
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#464628 - 07/02/13 02:39 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Jodiebizzle]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Yay you can use it for what it's meant for opening times still not been released yet Indeed. I'm getting the gearbox oil changed on Sat so hoping this resolves the 2nd gear synchromesh issue i'm currently having. I also need a few other bits doing. If all thumbs up then the Nurburgring will be having a flying Clio Sport taking it on _________________________
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#464629 - 10/02/13 01:43 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	With Silverstone reducing the track I won't be getting the clio out of storage and seems silly to insure & tax for 1 month. I'm going to skip the ring this year with the baby due in April and funds being stretched while Sarah's on maternity. I shall still be getting the Clio preped for this though so 2014 ill have it set as a true track weapon. I'm a little angry at fordfair/Trax changing to the national track. Thought I'd shout now. _________________________
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#464630 - 10/02/13 07:53 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
watkja Jack is the Rat Registered: 15/10/12 Posts: 5775 Loc: Birmingham	Clio!!! Nooooooooo lol _________________________
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#464631 - 11/02/13 09:42 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: watkja]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Clio!!! Nooooooooo lol Dont fear lol. I own two s too. The clio is just the track toy _________________________
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#464632 - 28/03/13 09:02 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
PhilST Registered: 27/03/13 Posts: 6 Loc: Germany	If anyone of you is planning to go to the NOS in the beginning of april (12.14. april), let me know! i will be there with parts of the german community to watch the vln and race on our own! especially sunday morning is the perfect time for exploring the track as there is lots of rubber and few other cars on the track! cheers Phil _________________________
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#464633 - 29/03/13 05:20 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: PhilST]
steviehouse Best Non ST Car of the Year 2013/2014 Registered: 10/05/10 Posts: 11614 Loc: Jubail, Saudi Arabia	there will be a number of different visits, few people are going at different times in May, some in September, some in October can't go to all of them its a shame we didnt get round to arranging a site visit like we were going to _________________________ 2015 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
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#464634 - 30/03/13 07:24 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: steviehouse]
ROB IS THE STIG The South East Massive Registered: 21/05/06 Posts: 50824 Loc: Kent	Would still like to go to the Ring.......!!! Especially on the bike _________________________ > CLICK HERE FOR MY MOTORSPORT & TRACKDAY VIDEOS <
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#464635 - 30/03/13 09:39 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
Jodiebizzle bizzle Registered: 14/11/11 Posts: 5000	Stevie as far as I thought, we were still doing ffst visit. Well me and Duncan are going twice this year, hopefully the October visit people decide to come too
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#464636 - 30/03/13 09:06 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Jodiebizzle]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	I was under the impression October was the choice of month _________________________
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#464637 - 07/04/13 11:23 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Stephlar]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	I've got my Clio fixed up now pretty good. More work was done yesterday. If we have the money then we will come along in Oct. _________________________
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#464638 - 07/04/13 06:21 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	It would be awesome if you can make it Scott, I really want a load of us to make a site trip in october. Im planning to do a separate thread for it tomorrow. _________________________ Flickr
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#464639 - 11/05/13 06:25 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
DutchKhana Site Supporter Registered: 18/12/12 Posts: 81 Loc: Glasgow	if anybody fancies a trip next year at some point im game (far too poor at the moment) by that time the should have a few mods it would be really good if we could get a MASSIVE group of us to go Edited by DutchKhana (11/05/13 06:26 PM) _________________________
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#464640 - 30/05/13 08:45 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: DutchKhana]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Booked! _________________________
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#464641 - 30/05/13 10:01 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Good work Scott! _________________________ Flickr
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#464642 - 27/06/13 09:28 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Shogun due to go in for repair 2nd week of July... fingers crossed _________________________
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#464643 - 27/06/13 09:46 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Alex_H Registered: 01/03/09 Posts: 15061 Loc: SE London	You towing a car there on a trailer then Scott? _________________________
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#464644 - 28/06/13 05:41 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Alex_H]
kenny Registered: 08/03/08 Posts: 11806 Loc: essex	Quote: You towing a car there on a trailer then Scott? Yeh when the Clio breaks down it will be on the back of a AA truck
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#464645 - 28/06/13 09:33 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: kenny]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Quote: You towing a car there on a trailer then Scott? Yeh when the Clio breaks down it will be on the back of a AA truck Hoping to Alex. Using the Shogun to trailer it. That way I don't have to be stuck for space with all Maiya's stuff and comfort. It all depends on this rebuild (fingers crossed). Kenny, Duff & Chris C are also going in Oct so it will be an FFST Trip. I have added to our FB page: https://www.facebook.com/events/171884462990318/ _________________________
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#464646 - 28/06/13 09:46 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Alex_H Registered: 01/03/09 Posts: 15061 Loc: SE London	Good idea that, i always thought that was the best way to get a car there That way if the tyres and fluids are knackered it just goes on the trailer and you dont have to worry about it till you home _________________________
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#464647 - 28/06/13 10:22 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Alex_H]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Good idea that, i always thought that was the best way to get a car there That way if the tyres and fluids are knackered it just goes on the trailer and you dont have to worry about it till you home I can enjoy it a little bit more knowing it only has to do the length of the ring and then back on a trailer... not having to worry about limping it home. Time will tell. _________________________
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#464648 - 28/06/13 02:06 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	Do you have a towing license Scott? _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#464649 - 28/06/13 06:18 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Adam08]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: Do you have a towing license Scott? No one does that passed after 1997 unless they took the test. I'm waiting on news about my Shogun and then i'm going to get a Trailer licence _________________________
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#464650 - 28/06/13 06:32 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
redstLee Site Supporter Registered: 19/12/10 Posts: 5428	How do you go about getting it scotty thinking of doing this my self
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#464651 - 28/06/13 07:48 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: redstLee]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Quote: How do you go about getting it scotty thinking of doing this my self https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow _________________________
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#464652 - 28/06/13 08:31 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Scotty]
Alex_H Registered: 01/03/09 Posts: 15061 Loc: SE London	Quote: Quote: Good idea that, i always thought that was the best way to get a car there That way if the tyres and fluids are knackered it just goes on the trailer and you dont have to worry about it till you home I can enjoy it a little bit more knowing it only has to do the length of the ring and then back on a trailer... not having to worry about limping it home. Time will tell. _________________________
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#464653 - 29/06/13 07:21 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Alex_H]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	We are hopefully joining you still waiting for one day of annual leave to be confirmed _________________________
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#540765 - 13/06/14 07:09 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Stephlar]
Blechdosenbill Site Supporter Registered: 20/08/10 Posts: 354 Loc: Germany (Hessen)	On june 28 there will be a big Ford RST Meet at the Ring. Is anyone from here goin there ? _________________________
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#541036 - 17/06/14 02:08 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	shame its not a few weeks later, would have been perfect timing for me _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#541248 - 18/06/14 05:43 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	i have looked into getting a trailer for the mondeo. i can tow up to 750kg on my standard lisence, but if the trailer weighs more than 750kg your ok if the combined weight of the car and trailer is under 3500kg your ok so the mondeo being 1500kg, the fiesta being 1100kg and the trailer weighing 500kg max, its under the limit _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#541271 - 18/06/14 08:39 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Planning to turn the fez into a dedicated track car then Dan? _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#541395 - 19/06/14 04:56 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	not really but just want to not have to worry about getting home if it does go wrong _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#541457 - 20/06/14 08:19 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Dan_The_Man]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Originally Posted By: Dan_The_Man i have looked into getting a trailer for the mondeo. i can tow up to 750kg on my standard lisence, but if the trailer weighs more than 750kg your ok if the combined weight of the car and trailer is under 3500kg your ok so the mondeo being 1500kg, the fiesta being 1100kg and the trailer weighing 500kg max, its under the limit You also have to take into account people, luggage and extra wheels etc you have. All adds weight. _________________________
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#541460 - 20/06/14 10:04 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
watkja Jack is the Rat Registered: 15/10/12 Posts: 5775 Loc: Birmingham	Are the Police actually going to stop you and weigh it all??? _________________________
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#541466 - 20/06/14 10:42 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: watkja]
dontpannic Site Supporter Registered: 10/04/11 Posts: 3507 Loc: Orpington, SE London, UK	Originally Posted By: watkja Are the Police actually going to stop you and weigh it all??? They can take you to a weighbridge, I have seen it happen. I thought the ruling for people who have a recent license can only drive a combined weight of 3500Kgs but a trailer must not weigh more than 750Kgs? Dan - I wouldn't fancy towing 1600Kgs with a 1500Kg car lol Edited by dontpannic (20/06/14 10:44 AM) _________________________
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#541514 - 21/06/14 02:12 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	You will find the mondeo is closer to 2tonnes, pretty sure its not the weight of the vehicle but the max weight of the vehicle that applies _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#541515 - 21/06/14 02:20 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Adam08 Site Supporter Registered: 15/10/08 Posts: 15118 Loc: Harpenden, Hertfordshire	If you passed your test after January 1, 1997 and before the January 19, 2013 you are able to drive a vehicle that weighs up to 3,500kg towing a trailer of up to 750kg, bringing total weight allowed to 4,250kg. You may also tow a trailer over 750kg as long as the weight of the trailer is no more than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, up to a combined weight of 3,500kg. The combination doesn't work your fiesta plus trailer needs to weigh less than the empty mondeo Finding stuff comflicting this though, would probably need to make a phone call to find out the exact rules Edited by Adam08 (21/06/14 02:23 PM) _________________________ 407BHP and 340lbft TD GT28/32 hybrid turbo, 3inch decat, 2.75inch exhaust, air intake + large MAF, injectors, fuel pump, tubular manifold
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#541533 - 21/06/14 08:31 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	same as Adam, find some places (especially trailer license places) state one thing and other sites say your ok i might have to make the fiesta lighter then _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#546322 - 13/09/14 01:56 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	6 days until we go, super excited! _________________________
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#546323 - 13/09/14 10:04 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	_________________________ Flickr
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#546325 - 14/09/14 05:21 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
steviehouse Best Non ST Car of the Year 2013/2014 Registered: 10/05/10 Posts: 11614 Loc: Jubail, Saudi Arabia	im sad that i wont be there and will just miss you guys _________________________ 2015 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
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#546449 - 19/09/14 04:51 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
BlondeBexx Cheekybexx Registered: 30/07/12 Posts: 5944 Loc: Kent	Have a great time Steph and Lee _________________________
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#546484 - 19/09/14 09:24 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	Enjoy your time away guys _________________________
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#546491 - 19/09/14 09:28 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
ROB IS THE STIG The South East Massive Registered: 21/05/06 Posts: 50824 Loc: Kent	Have a good one, plenty of pics please _________________________ > CLICK HERE FOR MY MOTORSPORT & TRACKDAY VIDEOS <
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#546525 - 19/09/14 06:42 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23756 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Have a great time. _________________________
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#547556 - 20/10/14 06:41 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	Hi all! Thank you, we did have a fantastic time, even on a budget! I know it gets mentioned every so often, but would love to go on a forum visit. Two of us did it on £700, which included Lee having a Senna racing jacket and us driving eight laps! _________________________
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#547566 - 20/10/14 08:03 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Scotty Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150 Registered: 27/02/04 Posts: 18100 Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire	That's a fantastic price Steph People could always jump in with others and help with fuel if they wanted to go. I shall be there. Next year the Clio will be sorted for track but it's going to be a toss up about being able to get to the ring or not. _________________________
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#547578 - 20/10/14 01:16 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	lot easier and cheaper to get there than people think! No reason for people not to go if they want to. Glad you had a good time! _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#547581 - 20/10/14 03:53 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: sxkopite8]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Originally Posted By: sxkopite8 lot easier and cheaper to get there than people think! No reason for people not to go if they want to. Glad you had a good time! Been saying this for years! Shall we actually set up a site visit for next year and stick to it? haha _________________________ Flickr
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#547584 - 20/10/14 04:37 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	im planning to go next year 10th of september till the 15th _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#547605 - 21/10/14 02:20 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	ill be looking at usual time of mid summer _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#547624 - 21/10/14 05:33 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
_Jimmy_ Site Supporter Registered: 11/02/14 Posts: 1431 Loc: Northwest	I think £700 is a lot really. What are the main costs? _________________________ 2005 Fiesta ST - wrote off Newman fast road cams, Fusion Fabrications custom inlet manifold, custom exhaust
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#547627 - 21/10/14 05:53 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Petrol is single biggest cost. Me and my mates make a tour out of it so we stop at several places nornally and have a couple nights out but obviously you can cut that out and just go straight to the ring and back to save money. _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#547631 - 21/10/14 09:08 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: _Jimmy_]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Originally Posted By: _Jimmy_ I think £700 is a lot really. What are the main costs? I would put it in this order: Petrol £250 Laptime (9 laps) £165 Accommodation £140 Euro tunnel £110 Breakdown cover £50 Food (depends on eating in/out/quantity) Thats roughly what I spend when going in total for 2 people. _________________________ Flickr
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#547632 - 21/10/14 09:09 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Dan_The_Man]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Originally Posted By: Dan_The_Man im planning to go next year 10th of september till the 15th Ohh, I'd be out there for my 25th birthday if I went then. Tempting!! _________________________ Flickr
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#547689 - 23/10/14 04:38 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
dontpannic Site Supporter Registered: 10/04/11 Posts: 3507 Loc: Orpington, SE London, UK	Originally Posted By: Duncan_P Originally Posted By: _Jimmy_ I think £700 is a lot really. What are the main costs? I would put it in this order: Petrol £250 Laptime (9 laps) £165 Accommodation £140 Euro tunnel £110 Breakdown cover £50 Food (depends on eating in/out/quantity) Thats roughly what I spend when going in total for 2 people. Can cut most of this down too. More people = less money. _________________________
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#547691 - 23/10/14 04:54 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Dan_The_Man Site Supporter Registered: 20/10/08 Posts: 7389 Loc: Eaton Bray, Dunstable	also if you collect tesco points you can treble what you have and get money off the train crossing, we paid £15 for our crossing last year and £35 this year _________________________ Red Escort 1.6LX Then - Red Escort 1.4 Then - Silver Fiesta ST 170BHP Then - White Fiesta ST MR200+ Now - Mitsubishi Evo IV Forged 2.3 500BHP and Mondeo Mk3 2.0TDCI
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#547703 - 23/10/14 10:22 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
sxkopite8 Eat My Du Registered: 24/01/12 Posts: 8193 Loc: Chelmsford, Essex	Plenty of ways to make it a cheap trip. Hence why i said there is no reason for people not to be able to get there _________________________ East of England Rep Midge - MG ZR 105 (10-11) Stella - MR200 Fiesta (11-15) Silky - R171 SLK280 (15 - )
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#547718 - 24/10/14 10:40 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
Duncan_P Site Supporter Registered: 09/11/09 Posts: 8421 Loc: Wincanton, Somerset	Originally Posted By: dontpannic Originally Posted By: Duncan_P Originally Posted By: _Jimmy_ I think £700 is a lot really. What are the main costs? Thats roughly what I spend when going in total for 2 people. Can cut most of this down too. More people = less money. The 328 only has two seats now though To be fair, accommodation can still be cut down, thouse houses work out pretty good value for money when there are 4 of you! Originally Posted By: Dan_The_Man also if you collect tesco points you can treble what you have and get money off the train crossing, we paid £15 for our crossing last year and £35 this year WHAT!! Never knew about this, thanks! _________________________ Flickr
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#547768 - 26/10/14 10:58 AM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: _Jimmy_]
Stephlar I am the ephmeier Registered: 07/03/10 Posts: 8643 Loc: Northamptonshire	Originally Posted By: _Jimmy_ I think £700 is a lot really. What are the main costs? Well essentially it cost me £605 as Lee's jacket was £95... Any trip abroad using our cars will be expensive, that fact cannot be ignored! We spent 200 Euros for 8 laps, £158 on accommodation, over £100 for the Euro Tunnel (which was booked well in advance)... The list goes on. We did eat out twice, although chose cheaper options, and visited the museum. Considering most people spend about £800+, I think we did very well. It really is what you make it. I will always try and keep the costs down where possible. The larger the group, the better the savings potentially. Dan did indeed alert me to the Tesco Clubcard savings, which is now why we have converted to Tesco from Asda!!! Edited by Stephlar (26/10/14 11:01 AM) _________________________
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#547770 - 26/10/14 12:10 PM Re: Nurburging Visits [Re: Duncan_P]
steviehouse Best Non ST Car of the Year 2013/2014 Registered: 10/05/10 Posts: 11614 Loc: Jubail, Saudi Arabia	its very similar to what it cost me and Thomas to come over to the UK everytime Accomodation - Usually around £100 Fuel - At least 3 tanks @£70 each so £210 Ferry/Chunnel - about £100 (Ferry is usually cheaper than the tunnel) Food/eating out Show tickets I never bothered with breakdown recovery, didnt even have that in NL and of course the cost of the laps is not there but it was easily £500 minimum each time _________________________ 2015 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
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