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#501684 - 28/03/13 02:00 PM Machine marks...
Tommy_ST Site Supporter Registered: 04/02/13 Posts: 86 Loc: West Yorkshire	Bought my in february and noticed that whoever had it before me has terribly machined polished it, when the sun shines on my car you can see all the 'squiggly' lines, looks likes someone has been ice skating on the bloody thing! How can I get rid of these? _________________________ K & N 57i Induction Kit Milltek Non Resonated Catback Milltek Sports Cat Milltek 4-1 Evo Manifold Cosworth Cams Jamsport Remap
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#501685 - 28/03/13 02:23 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Tommy_ST]
watkja Jack is the Rat Registered: 15/10/12 Posts: 5775 Loc: Birmingham	+1 _________________________
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#501686 - 28/03/13 04:01 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: watkja]
Tommy_ST Site Supporter Registered: 04/02/13 Posts: 86 Loc: West Yorkshire	Your in the same boat? _________________________ K & N 57i Induction Kit Milltek Non Resonated Catback Milltek Sports Cat Milltek 4-1 Evo Manifold Cosworth Cams Jamsport Remap
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#501687 - 28/03/13 04:17 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Tommy_ST]
watkja Jack is the Rat Registered: 15/10/12 Posts: 5775 Loc: Birmingham	Ye, i sent a pm to Rsjohn and he said he would have a look first then depending how bad he should be able to buff them out with a good clean using the right stuff. Edited by watkja (28/03/13 04:18 PM) _________________________
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#501688 - 28/03/13 07:26 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: watkja]
Jack_P Dirtiest Car 2013 + 2014 Registered: 21/07/10 Posts: 6012 Loc: Northants	Trying to think of what "squiggly" means. Are you on about swirls in the paint? Kind of like a spider webbing effect on the paint? Or are you on about lines in the paint thats been caused by someone with a machine polisher? _________________________ 180Bhp/206Nm
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#501689 - 28/03/13 08:40 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Jack_P]
ST_Jonny Site Supporter Registered: 28/03/12 Posts: 366 Loc: Chatham, Kent	Or do you mean something like 'pig tails'. If it's those then those are DA marks either from the factory or a respray. Ideally we would need to see some pic's.
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#501690 - 28/03/13 09:45 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: ST_Jonny]
benjammin Site Supporter Registered: 22/10/12 Posts: 190 Loc: Herts	Give it a wash then put a piccy up, will be easier to make a suggestion on process and product. _________________________ 2005 Panther Black SiCo Developments PAS Relocation SiCo Developments PAS Cooler 12.5mm Rear Axle Spacers Whiteline Anti Sway Bar Vibra-technics goodies in red Mountune HT Cables Homemade CAI ;-)
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#501691 - 28/03/13 10:36 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: benjammin]
Elliot_C Site Supporter Registered: 08/05/12 Posts: 1453 Loc: Oxfordshire	Sounds like heavy swirls/marring and holograming to me :/ _________________________ Havent got an ST, But heyy... im STill saving <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#501692 - 29/03/13 03:33 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Elliot_C]
Tommy_ST Site Supporter Registered: 04/02/13 Posts: 86 Loc: West Yorkshire	They're marks from a machine polisher not the standard swirl marks. Next time it's sunny I'll take a pic (could be a while with all this snow) _________________________ K & N 57i Induction Kit Milltek Non Resonated Catback Milltek Sports Cat Milltek 4-1 Evo Manifold Cosworth Cams Jamsport Remap
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#501693 - 29/03/13 04:44 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Tommy_ST]
Tommy_ST Site Supporter Registered: 04/02/13 Posts: 86 Loc: West Yorkshire	Like that all over the car pretty much. _________________________ K & N 57i Induction Kit Milltek Non Resonated Catback Milltek Sports Cat Milltek 4-1 Evo Manifold Cosworth Cams Jamsport Remap
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#501694 - 29/03/13 09:23 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Tommy_ST]
Jack_P Dirtiest Car 2013 + 2014 Registered: 21/07/10 Posts: 6012 Loc: Northants	:o jaassusss! That needs another correction using a machine polisher! _________________________ 180Bhp/206Nm
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#501695 - 29/03/13 10:04 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Jack_P]
cherie lurker Registered: 15/10/09 Posts: 653 Loc: Corby	My old Zetec S was like that on the bonnet and rear 3/4 after it had supposedly been polished by the dealer I bought it from. They really just don't pay as much care and attention as they should do. A decent polisher in the right hands should get rid of that no problem. _________________________ My car Me
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#501696 - 30/03/13 07:20 AM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Jack_P]
ROB IS THE STIG The South East Massive Registered: 21/05/06 Posts: 50824 Loc: Kent	Quote: That needs another correction using a machine polisher! That certainly does, that's in pretty poor shape _________________________ > CLICK HERE FOR MY MOTORSPORT & TRACKDAY VIDEOS <
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#501697 - 30/03/13 01:17 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
Elliot_C Site Supporter Registered: 08/05/12 Posts: 1453 Loc: Oxfordshire	Yes that's holograming. As Jack said, needs another Machine polish properly _________________________ Havent got an ST, But heyy... im STill saving <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#501698 - 30/03/13 10:08 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Elliot_C]
TheTard Site Supporter Registered: 04/10/10 Posts: 1716 Loc: West Yorkshire	Yeah, buffer trails are just awful. This damage is mainly inflicted at the dealership as a quick prep for a sale by someone who has no idea how to use a machine polisher. They're not too hard to get rid of if you have a dual action polisher, or know someone with DA or rotary. You can correct by hand but it will take a bit of effort and time. If you want to go down that route, I'd highly recommend G-Techniq P1 and a German applicator pad as they're great for correcting by hand.
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#501699 - 31/03/13 03:48 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: TheTard]
benjammin Site Supporter Registered: 22/10/12 Posts: 190 Loc: Herts	Ive emailed a copy of ur piccys to the lab geeks at my place to see what they say. but it doesnt look too bad. Just needs taking back and a re polish. definately worth finding someone near you to do it professionally as it could be an expensive mistake for a novice. _________________________ 2005 Panther Black SiCo Developments PAS Relocation SiCo Developments PAS Cooler 12.5mm Rear Axle Spacers Whiteline Anti Sway Bar Vibra-technics goodies in red Mountune HT Cables Homemade CAI ;-)
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#501700 - 31/03/13 05:59 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: benjammin]
ST_Jonny Site Supporter Registered: 28/03/12 Posts: 366 Loc: Chatham, Kent	I'm with Luke on this. Gtechniq P1 by hand with a german applicator will easily rectify that. I've used it on mine by hand with great results
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#501701 - 31/03/13 08:45 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: benjammin]
TheTard Site Supporter Registered: 04/10/10 Posts: 1716 Loc: West Yorkshire	Quote: definately worth finding someone near you to do it professionally as it could be an expensive mistake for a novice. It would look great if he took it to a professional, but if he had a go himself, I highly doubt that he would do any damage. Correcting by hand takes loads of effort just to remove a few microns of paint, unless he decided to go straight in and wet sand or use a rotary (which given a bit of care and thought isn't an issue really) Also there's something really satisfying about putting the effort into your own car and seeing the results =]
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#501702 - 01/04/13 07:00 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: TheTard]
benjammin Site Supporter Registered: 22/10/12 Posts: 190 Loc: Herts	Quote: It would look great if he took it to a professional, but if he had a go himself, I highly doubt that he would do any damage. Correcting by hand takes loads of effort just to remove a few microns of paint, unless he decided to go straight in and wet sand or use a rotary (which given a bit of care and thought isn't an issue really) Also there's something really satisfying about putting the effort into your own car and seeing the results =] Dont get me wrong TheTard, I agree with what your saying. Yes it is great making it ur own. But ive seen what happens when people go to a detailing supplier and buy a DA or rotary and completely fu**ing it up and was just offering my advice. If ur too light and gentle you might as well of not bothered, if ur too heavy handed and slow you could burm the paint and lacquer together (respray only way to fix) and if ur heavy handed and quick you get swirl marks and hologramming. http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13655 The above will help. _________________________ 2005 Panther Black SiCo Developments PAS Relocation SiCo Developments PAS Cooler 12.5mm Rear Axle Spacers Whiteline Anti Sway Bar Vibra-technics goodies in red Mountune HT Cables Homemade CAI ;-)
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#501703 - 01/04/13 09:43 PM Re: Machine marks... [Re: benjammin]
Tommy_ST Site Supporter Registered: 04/02/13 Posts: 86 Loc: West Yorkshire	Well I'm off on hols on thursday but I know a guy that comes to my work every other week valeting my boss' car so will ask him how much it would cost to get them out. Cheers guys. _________________________ K & N 57i Induction Kit Milltek Non Resonated Catback Milltek Sports Cat Milltek 4-1 Evo Manifold Cosworth Cams Jamsport Remap
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#501704 - 02/04/13 08:12 AM Re: Machine marks... [Re: Tommy_ST]
ROB IS THE STIG The South East Massive Registered: 21/05/06 Posts: 50824 Loc: Kent	I'd get a pro on it _________________________ > CLICK HERE FOR MY MOTORSPORT & TRACKDAY VIDEOS <
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