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#56714 - 04/11/06 01:59 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: STifler]
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Gr.N is one of the FIA categories for rallying regulations. Group N is meant to be the basic level of preparation of a rally car. In the good ol' days when the regulations were introduced they were strictly normal road cars only modified to a very minimal extent to improve safety (they had a roll cage installed, bucket seats, a harness and a few more very minor modifications). Nowadays there are many more things which can be modified while still remining within the boundaries of what Gr. N allows. Namely you can now remove carpet, back seats, parcel shelf, replace door trims with kevlar panels and a bunch more stuff to lighten your car whereas previously you couldn't. Even some engine mods are now allowed to improve performance, like changing parts of the exhaust, and other minor stuff.

Since the introduction of the WRC extension to Gr. A, normal Gr. A cars have almost ceased to exist in top level rallying. The new regulations have made Gr. N cars almost as quick as what a 10 year old Gr. A car used to be. Take a an Evo 8 or an Impreza Gr.N and it is pretty much competitive as it comes out of the showroom. Now imagine lightening it by 100 kilos and getting the power up to 300 bhp (theoretical maximum allowed)...

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#56715 - 04/11/06 02:10 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: Nick02]
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Registered: 21/08/06
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Dont they limit you on weight hasn't the car got to weigh so much and a performance figure has to be met but not gone over. Understand now takes a while for the penny to drop sometimes but least i know i love watching it and would like to know more about the sport but none of my mates aint got a clue
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#56716 - 04/11/06 03:00 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: Richie]
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how bout members all chip in and we can have it one day per year! lol
we might get half way




I think will be needing more members then!!
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#56717 - 04/11/06 04:28 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: babyboom]
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Right lets start rounding them up then and get the word around so we can all have that car
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#56718 - 05/11/06 02:37 AM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: STifler]
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Registered: 26/06/05
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Silly as it sounds we actually had this debate once before about getting a car from M-Sport:

http://www.fordfiestast.co.uk/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=33614&an=0&page=6#33614

The only problem was we all ended up squabbling about who would get to drive her first and who would have to run her in!!
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#56719 - 05/11/06 11:50 AM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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We should have a race!like gumball the fastest one get first to drive to the car!
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#56720 - 05/11/06 01:17 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: babyboom]
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#56721 - 05/11/06 01:59 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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Registered: 16/09/06
Posts: 560
Loc: Manchester / Essex
Yeh lol

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#56722 - 06/11/06 12:06 PM Re: ST for sale only £24,000 never raced or rallied :-) [Re: Richie]
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Registered: 23/02/06
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Loc: 52' N 154' E
I'm not buying the ebay one, no alloys.
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