I'm excited to soon be the proud owner of a fiesta ST.
Can anyone give me any pointers on what sort of price i should be paying
for a low mileage face lift ST (06 onwards i believe).
Also, having been a saxo vts owner along with a mate of mine,
we were wondering how the two cars compare on performance.
Any feedback would be much appreciated,
Look forward to hearing from you,
Cheers guys,
Joe.

Welcome to the site.

You picked a nice car to order

The VTS is made of bean cans and will obviously be alot faster than the

... until you get it on a track or down country lanes... then the will show you what it's made for!!!

Look for around 9k i should expect.

Take Care,

Scotty

Cheers Scotty,
Me and my mate were discussing this matter with the VTS,
we realise the ST is the heavier car but it also has an extra 30bhp,
provided both cars are standard.
We thought the cars would have similar pace up to around 80-90 then
the ST might pull away top end.
Any advances on this? Anybody any experience going up against a VTS?
Joe.

Hi there and welcome to the site.

Hey Budden welcome to the site! Agree with scotty should pay around 9K for an ST as for the Saxo did have lots of different performance figure so not that sure of how fast this car is compared to the ST!

Saxo VTS 0/60 7.7sec 0/100MPH 22.4 Top speed 123MPH

Fiesta ST 0/60 7.9sec O/100MPH 21.4 Top speed 129 MPH

The is slower to 60 MPH but after the ST just pull away!!

And of course, round the corners the ST will leave the VTS standing.

Take a look at this track time table from fifth gear. You'll see what the ST beats and what the ST is very close to. ST - 55.39 secs and Porsche Boxster - 54.60. The boxster is only 0.79 seconds quicker around the track than the ST. I think thats pretty good going.

It'll be close. I reckon any difference in the cars' performance would be overshadowed by the drivers' skill and experience. Either way, the ST is one hell of a car and I'm looking forward to picking mine up in March.

welcome to the site joe,lots of luck with your future st purchase.

thanks for the continuing feedback guys,
i need to decide which colour i like the most,
i'm swaying towards white or silver i think!

Hi, I'm a new user to the forum, and am Budden's mate. I own a VTS, and have never driven an ST but i know they're solid cars.

However, i do think one or two people are underestimating the handling capabilities of the Saxo. Remember this car is 935kg in weight, it is extremely well balanced and nibble through corners. Jeremy Clarkson hailed the VTS as the 2nd best handling car in the world, infront of a lotus elise S1. Granted this was in 1998, but it was against such cars as ferrari 355, 550, porsce carrera, skyline r33, mitso 3000gt, bmw M3, etc etc.

On that note, i would like to say i understand the ST is also a very well balanced car, with a great suspension setup and solid chassis. It is also probably slightly stiffer than the saxo.

My conclusion is that i fail to see how a well set up car of nearly 1200kg can "leave a VTS standing" in corners which is also well set up and also 935kg. The VTS is bound to change direction just as quick if not quicker!

Still i do like ST's though!

IIRC on fifth gear a few months ago they tested the sportka against the VTS and i believe the sportka came out on top. Or am i just dreaming this...........:D

that wasn't a C2 VTS was it Ben?

It was definately a C2 yes. they do a VTS and a VTR dont they. It was definately one of those two.

yeah, we're comparing it to a saxo VTS! Unfortunately the C2 isn't up to much!

Saxo:
120bhp @ 6600rpm
935kg
128bhp/tonne

Fiesta:
147bhp @ ? < one of you guys could enlighten me on this!
1165kg (facelift)
126bhp/tonne

I have had many a play with ST's before, and I can safely say from a rolling start, there is literally NOTHING in it upto silly speeds (from my experience), and I really mean nothing!


I would honestly think they would be neck and neck up to 120mph at which point the saxo changes to 5th and I reckon the ST would probably start to creep away.

On corners with identical drivers I'm not sure. Because from my experience the ST looks stiffer on corners meaning it would have more pressure on the inside wheels than the saxo, increasing grip, but because the saxo is 250kg lighter, the saxo would corner just as quick.

A stiffened saxo vs a stiffened ST however, that would be a different story