#8481 - 02/05/05 12:45 AM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Phyzzo]
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I can't be bothered to go into detail, do some research and you will find the facts once you break 200bhp these engines start to fail,all the internals are built to be close to tolerences. to much BHP/RPM & POP Goes the engine. Duratec badged engine as found in the SVT is not a Duratec but a Zetec. The Duratec I4 is a Mazda engine.
Don't fear I know my engines. All the engines available in US now are Duratecs, 1 year ago there was the Zetecs and the SVT Zetec.
Zetec's where said to be bad at boost too, it's all matter of doing the things right, i don't think you are right on the 200bhp limit, it's all matter of doing the right stuff, the right way, who would have thought that you could get 220whp from a fully stock 2l zetec, that on a safe tune.
As on most 4cyls it's better to build the bottom first then start doing the real tuning.
Just look at the kits More Info
Edited by FR500 (02/05/05 01:27 AM)
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#8483 - 02/05/05 03:22 AM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Phyzzo]
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Swap is a lot more expensive, and as you probably read on the link, they went 200+, and no engine breaking, lower compression ratio a notch and i think it would hold turbocharging nicely too.
Edit: i was reading about the latest part on mazda forums, they said rods are the weakest link, but they are safe to 10psi. I'd go for no more than 8psi to be safe, but with relatively high compression and 8psi the power is already there. I'll keep on researching, as my next car might have a Duratec in there.
Edited by FR500 (02/05/05 03:32 AM)
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#8487 - 02/05/05 10:45 AM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Phyzzo]
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Fiesta Nutter
Registered: 01/03/05
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Loc: west london, heathrow
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oh right i get u now, u mean it will upset the car in a bad way unless u sort it out propely??? wow, for the extra power not worth it really is it???
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#8489 - 02/05/05 10:56 AM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Phyzzo]
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Fiesta Nutter
Registered: 01/03/05
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i can imagine, my mate done something to his engine, but it was pulling the car all over place (i.e unbalanced if u get me) and he started seeing what looked like cracks/tear in the support joining things ( as u can tell i dont really know alot about this stuff lol) needless to say the car was fooked!!!1
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#8490 - 02/05/05 01:38 PM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Jonesy]
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Registered: 18/10/04
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Anyway i would not go the turbo way in a fiesta, i like the instant response of a NA engine, for me the Duratec203 kit sounds a good deal. As you said, plug and play, it's expensive, but power always is, but i agree, a lot of power in bad hands is a bad idea, i have driven clio 182s and i find them amusing, but once i was on the passenger on a b-road with the dealership guy, and i was scared to death, even though he wasn't going that fast.
Regarding turbocharging for Duratecs, as i said i reffered to mazda3 forums, and new (facelifted) focus forums, both use duratec20 and duratec23, Marcy Motorsports, is developing components to achieve power for duratec, he said the rods won't hold 10 or more psi, the rest is fine, another team is testing a 10psi kit with good results, i have videos of the car, and it's looking up nicely.
Anyways the topic was about bhp increasing, so i'm just trying to apport what i know and what i've read.
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#8491 - 02/05/05 01:45 PM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Jonesy]
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Registered: 25/05/04
Posts: 27
Loc: UK
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To be honest if you want a reliable 200hp for every day use it was a mistake to by a FST. With the money you spend on tuning, lowering, LSD etc you could have bought a new CTR or a good condition FRS. I don't think many owners will fit much more than an exhaust, chip and induction kit to give about 175hp and maybe drop it on Ford Eibach springs.
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#8492 - 02/05/05 03:02 PM
Re: BHP Increase
[Re: Terry_RS]
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Registered: 18/10/04
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Yes i see your point, i would lower it a bit anyway, i would tune it though, not for extreme race applications, but i'd like a 200hp fiesta, thats just me then.
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