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#84951 - 24/04/07 11:30 AM New Member
STevE26 Stranger Registered: 24/04/07 Posts: 4	Hi Everyone, Ive currently got a Series 2 RS Turbo although its a great car to own (when working)it has just been a money pit over the last few years. its actually on ebay at the moment if you want to take a look: Item no - 170104551652 Im pretty close to deciding that my next car is going to be Fiesta ST - my harts set on a white one with side stripes as they look sexy as hell. I was considering getting a focus ST but just cant afford it at the moment. I guess im after some further encourgement just to make my mind up completly, whats it like owning an ST? - I know there fast ive been beaten more than once in the RS over the past year! and they obviously look good id just like to get you opinions aswell! Cheers.
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#84952 - 24/04/07 12:00 PM Re: New Member [Re: STevE26]
Cron Fiesta Crazy Registered: 23/02/07 Posts: 632	Hi Steve The RS looks good, shame its ended up being such a money pit As for the Fiesta ST have you had a test drive yet? if not, I'd definately recommend trying it before you make your mind up. I've had my ST now for about 6 weeks or so. Overall i'm really pleased with it, and glad I went for it. Plus points, not bad MPG, good performance, good handling, good looks, well equipped, nice gear box, good driving position (good seats), reasonable insurance. Things I don't really like about it - at 5-6k revs it doesnt pull as well as my ST170 did (different gearing i know) but it also sounds like the engine is struggling a bit. A decent induction kit seems to have solved that, and I'm having a flexi pipe fitted as well which will apparently make a nice difference to the torque at higher revs (pretty cheap upgrades to the car for around £200). Also the car took a little getting used to throwing it into corners. While it handles very well, and the driving position is good (view etc), it does "feel" that its sitting quite high and that you could topple over... but once you get used to the fact it WILL grip its fine. I looked at the Focus ST as well, and for £200 a month more + higher insurance it just wasn't worth it. The other car I really liked the look of was the Focus RS mkI but at the end of the day its a 3+ year old performance car, and could go the way of your Escort (money pit...). The Fiesta imo is a cheap, well performing little hot hatch that does everything I need it to do.... and driving it is fun. Mines on a 3 year deal, and I think for the first time in a long line of car ownership I will probably keep it for at least that hehe. Colour wise, go with what you like, have a look through the various forums theres a lot for you there to compare - my car was dealer stock, so I didnt have a build wait, + I got a big discount on the car, so I only had the choice of black or silver. I think all of the colours look good in their own right, but i'm probably with you on the frozen white - if I'd had the choice it would have been frozen white, full stripes - with black ST being my 2nd choice colour - but I like it a lot. Good luck with it all, let us know how you get on _________________________ Cron (FiestaSTOC.com Staff) Visit www.fiestastoc.com/forums
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#84953 - 24/04/07 12:10 PM Re: New Member [Re: Cron]
STevE26 Stranger Registered: 24/04/07 Posts: 4	Thanks for that CRON, exactly the sort of info im looking for, ye its a shame about the RS but as you say old performance cars are generally all the same as far as expendature is concerned. - i will miss the noise turbo's make though..!! the focus would have cost me around 400 a month on the deal I was looking at, just not worth it as I work in the city so dont drive to much anyhow. ill probably look at getting a loan of around 10 k and buying a good second hand very low millage ST over the next month or 2 ill keep you posted. Steve.
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#84954 - 24/04/07 12:15 PM Re: New Member [Re: STevE26]
Cron Fiesta Crazy Registered: 23/02/07 Posts: 632	tbh mate, with some haggling for 10k you won't be far off a brand new one... I'm the same tbh, I use my fiesta to go to work and back (25 mile round trip) and I just couldn't justify the £200 more the focus would have been - great car, but my wife and I have a people carrier which we use for shopping/motorway/visiting family etc... so the Fiesta made so much more sense. Don't worry too much about the noise... I think the Fiesta sounds lovely with an induction kit - or maybe if you can get something for around £9k you could think about a full exhaust system... Go here: http://performancestars.co.uk/store/product_info.php/cPath/171_54_60_88/products_id/212 and look at the video clips - sounds so good hehe. _________________________ Cron (FiestaSTOC.com Staff) Visit www.fiestastoc.com/forums
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#84955 - 24/04/07 05:35 PM Re: New Member [Re: Cron]
babyboom Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 11557 Loc: somewhere in the world	welcome to the site Steve! sad u had to sell ur RS! hope an ST soon! _________________________
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#84956 - 25/04/07 10:00 AM Re: New Member [Re: babyboom]
DAVE T ST Fiesta Nutter Registered: 15/01/06 Posts: 3556 Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids	From experience with my wife having a new 1.8 Zetec Climate Focus and me having a new Fiesta ST, I would go for a 2.0 Zetec Focus mate. The focus is a far superior car than the Fiesta, her 1.8 is almost as quick, cheaper to insure and far outhandles the ST even though it's on 16" alloys. A good rumour has it that there is a ZETEC-S version of the Focus coming out soon which has the ST front and back bumpers, spoiler and skirts but 17" alloys and a single exhaust but with a much cheaper price tag than the ST. I think it's having 2.0 Petrol and Diesel. I'd wait a bit and see if I were you, I wish I had _________________________ 2011 Focus 3-door Zetec 1.6 TDCi. Previous <img src="/images/graemlins/stemo.gif" alt="" />s - 2006 Panther Black & 2007 Red. Gone and quite forgotten <img src="/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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#84957 - 25/04/07 03:17 PM Re: New Member [Re: STevE26]
Iceman Fiesta Nutter Registered: 27/09/06 Posts: 3019 Loc: Bradford.	welcome steve to the site pal,owning an st is great awsome infact even though i prefer driving the wifes at the moment. _________________________ on my 2nd st.
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#84958 - 25/04/07 04:50 PM Re: New Member [Re: Iceman]
STevE26 Stranger Registered: 24/04/07 Posts: 4	thanks everyone - all good information! what kind of BHP could you realistically get out of the ST with a few mods - exhaust, chip, filter that kind of stuff. and has anyone on here done that sort of thing yet? my is about 140bhp give or take a few.. Steve
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#84959 - 25/04/07 05:10 PM Re: New Member [Re: STevE26]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23756 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quite a few people have had 170/180+ out of theirs by doing the various things you've suggested. _________________________
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#84960 - 25/04/07 05:54 PM Re: New Member [Re: STevE26]
DAVE T ST Fiesta Nutter Registered: 15/01/06 Posts: 3556 Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids	Quote: thanks everyone - all good information! what kind of BHP could you realistically get out of the ST with a few mods - exhaust, chip, filter that kind of stuff. and has anyone on here done that sort of thing yet? my is about 140bhp give or take a few.. Steve Depends how much money you are willing to spend mate. With a 2.3 coversion and all the add ons you would easily get past the 200BHP mark. I think with a decent exhaust and air filter you should be starting to get near 170 BHP mark. Remember you're used to the torque of the turbo at the moment, one thing the ST isn't is torquey. You have to work the engine hard to get anything out of it and it has quite a flat spot between 3 & 4,500 RPM _________________________ 2011 Focus 3-door Zetec 1.6 TDCi. Previous <img src="/images/graemlins/stemo.gif" alt="" />s - 2006 Panther Black & 2007 Red. Gone and quite forgotten <img src="/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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#84961 - 25/04/07 07:37 PM Re: New Member [Re: DAVE T ST]
Cron Fiesta Crazy Registered: 23/02/07 Posts: 632	Read a few times that a flexi pipe (£70+) and an induction kit (£100) will give you around 165bhp ish.. but it all depends on the car. A lot of the tuners say that the face lift STs seem to give greater bhp than the pre-face lifts.. but i don't know if thats true or not. Like Dave says.. its down to what you wanna pay.... theres a couple of people on the other Fiesta ST forums pushing 200+bhp, but they've spent upwards of £4k I believe (a lot more in some cases). At the end of the day though, its a FWD car and putting down that sort of power can be tricky _________________________ Cron (FiestaSTOC.com Staff) Visit www.fiestastoc.com/forums
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#84962 - 25/04/07 07:57 PM Re: New Member [Re: Cron]
babyboom Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 11557 Loc: somewhere in the world	think its easy to get around 170 BHP with induction kit and exhaust system! with fast road cam and remap probably can gain some extra BHP!! _________________________
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#84963 - 25/04/07 09:19 PM Re: New Member [Re: babyboom]
ben_st Registered: 02/10/05 Posts: 1957 Loc: Gatwick, UK	Yeah, they did a rolling road test on the standard facelift fiesta (and others with mods) in the fast ford mag. The standard facelift car had a readout of 158bhp which isn't bad. maybe the rumour is true.
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#84964 - 26/04/07 05:20 AM Re: New Member [Re: ben_st]
babyboom Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 11557 Loc: somewhere in the world	Quote: Yeah, they did a rolling road test on the standard facelift fiesta (and others with mods) in the fast ford mag. The standard facelift car had a readout of 158bhp which isn't bad. maybe the rumour is true. hope so!! always like to have more power than they quote!! _________________________
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#84965 - 26/04/07 05:59 AM Re: New Member [Re: ben_st]
ChrisCumbria Driving as Daily Registered: 26/06/05 Posts: 23756 Loc: Whitehaven, Cumbria	Quote: Yeah, they did a rolling road test on the standard facelift fiesta (and others with mods) in the fast ford mag. The standard facelift car had a readout of 158bhp which isn't bad. maybe the rumour is true. I hadn't heard that that had been shown (although had heard the rumours before). If thats right then I'm surprised Ford haven't quoted it officially, unless they're keeping it quiet to keep the ST in the insurnace grioup it was already in. _________________________
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#84966 - 26/04/07 03:10 PM Re: New Member [Re: ChrisCumbria]
babyboom Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 11557 Loc: somewhere in the world	Quote: Quote: Yeah, they did a rolling road test on the standard facelift fiesta (and others with mods) in the fast ford mag. The standard facelift car had a readout of 158bhp which isn't bad. maybe the rumour is true. I hadn't heard that that had been shown (although had heard the rumours before). If thats right then I'm surprised Ford haven't quoted it officially, unless they're keeping it quiet to keep the ST in the insurnace grioup it was already in. yes did see that as well!seem like facelift model have more BHP!! _________________________
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#84967 - 26/04/07 07:12 PM Re: New Member [Re: babyboom]
budden Fiesta Mad Registered: 04/02/07 Posts: 314 Loc: East Yorks.	Just remember that rollers aren't always perfectly accurate and that 158bhp car may have been an isolated example, all factory standard engines give different power output from car to car so in reality you could have anything between 145 up to 160ish BHP, it might be that some are luckier than other when getting their ST, also it might have something to do with the way the car is run in when first driven! _________________________ Up the Boys/Girls!!!
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#84968 - 28/04/07 10:23 AM Re: New Member [Re: budden]
DAVE T ST Fiesta Nutter Registered: 15/01/06 Posts: 3556 Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids	Quote: Just remember that rollers aren't always perfectly accurate and that 158bhp car may have been an isolated example, all factory standard engines give different power output from car to car so in reality you could have anything between 145 up to 160ish BHP, it might be that some are luckier than other when getting their ST, also it might have something to do with the way the car is run in when first driven! True. And it's well known that the 1.25 and 1.6 Zetec-E can be well over the top on BHP. Some 1.25s can be pushing 90BHP standard while 1.6s have been known to be up to 120BHP. Apparently Ford know this but quote 75 and 100 respectively for insurance purposes. That's why the Zetec-S is so quick _________________________ 2011 Focus 3-door Zetec 1.6 TDCi. Previous <img src="/images/graemlins/stemo.gif" alt="" />s - 2006 Panther Black & 2007 Red. Gone and quite forgotten <img src="/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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#84969 - 28/04/07 05:03 PM Re: New Member [Re: DAVE T ST]
JW_RED Registered: 29/07/06 Posts: 277 Loc: Birmingham	Hello and welcome
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#84970 - 28/04/07 05:56 PM Re: New Member [Re: DAVE T ST]
babyboom Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 11557 Loc: somewhere in the world	Quote: Quote: Just remember that rollers aren't always perfectly accurate and that 158bhp car may have been an isolated example, all factory standard engines give different power output from car to car so in reality you could have anything between 145 up to 160ish BHP, it might be that some are luckier than other when getting their ST, also it might have something to do with the way the car is run in when first driven! True. And it's well known that the 1.25 and 1.6 Zetec-E can be well over the top on BHP. Some 1.25s can be pushing 90BHP standard while 1.6s have been known to be up to 120BHP. Apparently Ford know this but quote 75 and 100 respectively for insurance purposes. That's why the Zetec-S is so quick ford is no the only one!!VAG group seem to be well know for it!!most of there cars have more power than quote! some were like up to 25BHP different!! _________________________
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