#147177 - 12/12/08 01:31 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
[Re: CostasST]
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If you've got an ST then just fit the eibachs - 205 is the standard width
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#147178 - 12/12/08 04:03 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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i want to turn my st from a 4x4 to a nice road hugger, but dont wnt to lose handling or the very stiff suspension it has, will changing the springs change anything apart from height?
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#147179 - 12/12/08 05:17 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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most say not much difference between the ride on standard springs or eibachs, however seems to be a bit more feedback from some people that changing the springs only is having a negative effect, mainly on bad road surface, some say the shocks are bottoming out as the springs are not designed to work directly with the standard shocks, the eibachs are just coiled up tighter than the standard springs.
As I said though most are very happy on eibachs, if you can afford adjustable coilies then buy those.
KW Coilies for me in new year.
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#147180 - 12/12/08 07:47 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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Btw, I dont have a ST.
Got the Fiesta Studio...
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#147181 - 12/12/08 09:46 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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The eibachs (that we were taking about because you did not state ST) are zetec S diesel springs which are approved for the ST also. I don't know whether any are done for other models, they must work appropriately with your dampers.
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#147182 - 13/12/08 12:26 AM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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Registered: 29/12/07
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I want to lower my Fiesta...
However i recently fitted it with "17" Kei Force 10s Alloys.
there width is 205mm...
I was wondering if anyone else has lowered there car with there tyre width roughly the same as mine? The problem is if I lower it to much the tyre will rub, so i need to know roughly how much room i got to lower it before it starts rubbing.
Anyone got anything for me?
I presume your wheels are 17"x7" with 205/40R17 tyres? if this is the case you will have no problems with rubbing at all if you lower your car with Eibach Springs (which I would recommend) which are around a 35mm drop in ride height.
The offset and backspace of the wheels is probably the most (and least understood) factor in determining whether you will encounter problems or not.
With that size wheel and tyre combo you could have anywhere between ET50 to ET40 offset (which your wheels "will definately" fall into) and you will have no issues at all.
The problems with rubbing and brake clearances normally arise when people start going with wheels over 7" wide and larger than 205mm tyres with too much negative or positive offset, wrong backspacing or they start lowering the car too much with coilover suspension etc.
The ride quality on Eibach Springs is not too harsh at all and is fully compatable with your stock struts, bear in mind though that Eibach make 2 variations of ProSport Progressive rate springs for the Mk 6 Fiesta, one is for the ST and Diesel models to support the heavier engines, the other type is for all the other models such as yours.
Installing the wrong ones in your case won't matter, ie: putting in the ST/Diesel ones wont be a problem whereas putting the lighter rate ones into an ST/Diesel of course would be!
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#147184 - 13/12/08 10:37 AM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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well going over bumps or a rough road is bad enough in the st as it is lol, but i do just drive slower over bad surfaces and its not too bad, are the eibacs gna affect my shocks in an adverse way or anything like that? also how much are the k coilovers? is it a full set of shocks and springs?
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#147185 - 13/12/08 11:59 AM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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Hmm Okay, so you suggest Eibach Springs for my Fiesta Studio yes?
Ill get you a picture tomorrow to show you what it looks like ect...
But yeah Okay, So your saying it wont rub at all with a 35mm drop?
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#147187 - 13/12/08 01:45 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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are the eibacs gna affect my shocks in an adverse way or anything like that? also how much are the k coilovers? is it a full set of shocks and springs?
The Eibachs are not specifically designed to work with the shocks but work well as most will tell you.
Coilies include both, KW £600.
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#147188 - 13/12/08 06:57 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
[Re: YellowBadge]
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so the bst ooption is to do it right and pay 600 or the cheaper option?
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#147189 - 13/12/08 09:41 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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If its not an ST or 1.6 oil burner you'd best not use the springs that we're all going on about. The fronts in particular are matched to the extra weight that the oil burner or 2.0l engine.
You can get lowering springs for other models but the stiffness will be slightly softer to accomodate the reduction in weight.
Generally, people are happy enough with the new ride, but it will be slightly harsher as the spring rate has to be tightened up to prevent early bottoming
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#147190 - 13/12/08 09:51 PM
Re: Lowering My Fiesta
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Registered: 29/12/07
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so the bst ooption is to do it right and pay 600 or the cheaper option?
Height and damper adustable coilovers are ultimately the best way to go, although bear in mind that even on the softest damper setting most coilover setups will be a "much harsher ride" than just replacing the stock springs with some aftermarket ones like the Eibach's.
If your worried about the harsh ride, or the cost .... don't get coilovers!
The best "cost effective" option for lowering any car is to install some "progressive rate lowering springs" that wont adversely effect ride quality or put too much stress on your struts .... and that's what most people do and they are usually perfectly happy with the result.
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