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#112610 - 20/12/07 06:50 PM Ford IDS
Artstu Offline
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Is it possible to buy one of these at a reasonable cost?

Thanks

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#112611 - 20/12/07 09:45 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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wot you mean mate
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#112612 - 20/12/07 09:55 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: HOWICK17]
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wot you mean mate



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#112613 - 20/12/07 09:55 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: HOWICK17]
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Integrated Diagnositc Tool, you know the computer that talks to the one in the car to reset things and find out what's wrong with it.

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#112614 - 21/12/07 12:05 AM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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Integrated Diagnositc Tool, you know the computer that talks to the one in the car to reset things and find out what's wrong with it.




Woooo! slow down, if your talking about that kind of tool, we use them where i work, and costs are in their £ thousands.
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#112615 - 21/12/07 07:53 AM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Kev]
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if you got facelift you can find out all sorts from youe digital display if you put it into test mode. voltage, engine temp, mph in digital, loads more stuff i dont even know!
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#112616 - 21/12/07 10:57 AM Re: Ford IDS [Re: STrick]
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Yeah thats wot i do when i think she is running a bit sluggish just double check all the figure on the test mode
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#112617 - 21/12/07 12:55 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Kev]
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Integrated Diagnositc Tool, you know the computer that talks to the one in the car to reset things and find out what's wrong with it.




Woooo! slow down, if your talking about that kind of tool, we use them where i work, and costs are in their £ thousands.




I know that's why I said at a reasonable cost, there are little companies bringing these things out all the time, for all the back-street garages who are becoming lost when it comes to modern day car electronics

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#112618 - 21/12/07 02:09 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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bluefin does Diagnositc

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#112619 - 21/12/07 02:24 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: sasst]
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bluefin does Diagnositc




Thought that also,think it's around £600.
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#112620 - 02/01/08 10:20 AM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Kev]
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Dreamscience can read and clear DTC codes, as well as data log all sorts of info.

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#112621 - 02/01/08 05:57 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Mase]
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If you got facelift you can find out all sorts from youe digital display if you put it into test mode.




Actually, you can do that to any fiesta from the Mark 5 onwards if it has any sort of digital display on its speedo. Used to it to my old Freestyle TDdI.

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#112622 - 02/01/08 06:35 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: JamesUK]
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couldnt do it on pre facelift i dont think
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#112623 - 02/01/08 07:26 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: STrick]
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You can access various stuff on the pre-facelift, just a little more tricky. There's a thread on how to do it here:

Digital Display Thread
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#112624 - 02/01/08 07:28 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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Also... some info here on how to read the fault codes when in test mode:

How to read fault codes
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#112625 - 08/01/08 08:19 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: sasst]
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bluefin does Diagnositc




Can also take a look at our range of tools.

All UK cars from 2001 (petrol) and 2004 (diesel) are EOBD compliant, and therefore can use generic tools to scan and read engine data.

We do Ford tools from £47.95 + P&P (http://www.ukobd.co.uk/gstore/store/g_viewItem.asp?IDproduct=87)

Hope that this helps.

Gareth
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#112626 - 08/01/08 08:53 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: UKOBD]
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I find this whole subject very confusing

I see that the car already has the ability to allow you to access this data, does that mean that you can also reset some of the warning fault codes like the MIL (no idea what it stands for) and airbag warning lights,

Or do you need one of these IDS things?

I'm asking because my ultimate intention is to use all the Fiesta mechanicals and transplant them into a new glassfibre shell.

I imagine there will be issues with immobiliser and key fob recognition and air-bag lights, although my car may well do without airbags as a lot of the donor vehicles will have deployed their airbags.

In simple terms I'm looking for a device that will allow me to resolve any issues I may come across regarding these highly complicated electronics without ever needing to visit a Ford dealer.

Any advice greatly received thanks

Stuart

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#112627 - 09/01/08 08:22 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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Hi Stuart,

From 2001 for petrol vehicles, and 2004 for diesel vehicles the EU established a law which meant that engine (not ABS or airbag I'm afraid) systems had to be accessible by a set of generic means - i.e. same socket, only a certain distance away from the steering wheel, etc.

Has long as you retain the diagnostic socket and the engine ECU you will be fine. We supply products to a number of the teams who prep rally cars and most ECU's are stripped out there too.

Immobiliser and key fob recognition will be a problem with the ECU, but as long as the ECU believes that the key fob is present you will be fine - may need to do some searching through the wiring diagrams for that one!

IDS is not required unless you are looking to access other system, or do programming. ABS, Airbag, etc. can be accessed using a specialist tool such as our MBD3210 (http://www.ukobd.co.uk/gstore/store/g_viewItem.asp?idProduct=63) - hope that this helps!

Gareth

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#112628 - 09/01/08 09:03 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: UKOBD]
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Thanks Gareth,

That makes things a bit clearer for me. I've made a note of the product details.

When I need one I'll be back in touch. I'm bit of a way off at the moment and just gathering imformation I know I'll need to get the job done.

Thanks again
Stuart

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#112629 - 09/01/08 10:30 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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I take it then that the interface then needs to be plugged into a PC, so the £199 is the cost of the interface lead and a programme for your PC? or am I getting it all wrong still?

Thanks

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#112630 - 10/01/08 05:38 PM Re: Ford IDS [Re: Artstu]
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Yes, it is the cost of the interface cable and hardware, as well as the software for your PC.

Gareth

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