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#144453 - 19/10/08 04:59 PM ICE help please- adding a sub
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Hi all,

I've had enough of the standard speakers in terms of low-end sound, theres just not enough of it. I've replaced the Ford H/U with a good spec Sony and it has helped slightly.

I'm thinking about adding a sub, a small 8" should be find because I dont wnt to carry around much extra weight or lose boot space. I've been looking at the encolsed ones with a built-in amp such as these -

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-tswx77a-p-6820.html
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/kenwood-kscsw10-p-6314.html

Can anyone give me their experience/verdict on these all in Subs, for example is it better to add an amp and then sub on its own?

I'm a bit lacking in ICE knowledge so help would be appreciated.

Thanx
Rich
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#144454 - 19/10/08 07:04 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: ric77]
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all depends how loud you want it to be mate and the budget you have. You get what you pay for. My favourite sub ever was an Alpine Type R sub, really good bass on that.

Just a quick look, and these are pretty decent Kicker
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#144455 - 19/10/08 07:06 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: JJST]
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sorry I first thought those links were for sub and amp!! That Pioneer is soo flat!

Uh no experience in those. My mate got an all in one Fli sub - quite budget really, it makes some noise but nothing on my old alpine.
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#144456 - 19/10/08 07:18 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: JJST]
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sorry I first thought those links were for sub and amp!! That Pioneer is soo flat!

Uh no experience in those. My mate got an all in one Fli sub - quite budget really, it makes some noise but nothing on my old alpine.




Cheers mate - was the Alpine the trunk type sub in the box with its own amp. Budget is about £200 quid I suppose including the amp? I'm not that bothered about mega loud just a decent sound that wont distort.

Do you reckon an 8" sub (Alpine / JBL / Kenwood) in a box with an amp would be a better option than one of the tube type ones (as per the link).

Also, has anyone got an links to sites they have had stuff from?


Edited by ric77 (19/10/08 07:41 PM)
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#144457 - 19/10/08 08:24 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: ric77]
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I am sure that by getting a smaller more compact one you will lose some quality and you will pay a premium for it. Therefore £200 for the flat Pioneer probably won't be as good as a standard size sub which you spend the same money on.

I personally think you'd be better off with a separate sub and amp, I had a bass tube before (a cylinder one) and it wasn't that great.
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#144458 - 20/10/08 10:05 AM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: JJST]
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if u dont want a big kick out of a sub then go for a fli 12inch active sub got it in my car and it was only £130 its not that big either



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#144459 - 20/10/08 11:14 AM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: kenny]
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that fli sub is the same as my mate has in his E Class merc! Unfortunately it's built like a tank and you don't hear a great deal of bass! IU am sure it'd be better in the ST though.
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#144460 - 20/10/08 11:49 AM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: JJST]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now

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#144461 - 20/10/08 12:39 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: kenny]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now




Do u use it with the standard speakers and does it make a big difference? I'm think that even if I add a sub, will the speakers distort even tho the sub will handle all the low?
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#144462 - 20/10/08 12:47 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: ric77]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now




Do u use it with the standard speakers and does it make a big difference? I'm think that even if I add a sub, will the speakers distort even tho the sub will handle all the low?




yes mate at the mo im still using the standard speakers,i put a new sony unit in and the speakers are much better and do not distort and yes there is a big difference in sound (i think anyway) hope this helps

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#144463 - 20/10/08 02:05 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: kenny]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now




Do u use it with the standard speakers and does it make a big difference? I'm think that even if I add a sub, will the speakers distort even tho the sub will handle all the low?




yes mate at the mo im still using the standard speakers,i put a new sony unit in and the speakers are much better and do not distort and yes there is a big difference in sound (i think anyway) hope this helps




kenny can you remember what color the lead was for turning the amp on and off? im sure it was green. going to refit all my stuff into my new ST and cant remember what color it was

ta

Dal
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#144464 - 20/10/08 02:28 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: w3dal]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now




Do u use it with the standard speakers and does it make a big difference? I'm think that even if I add a sub, will the speakers distort even tho the sub will handle all the low?




yes mate at the mo im still using the standard speakers,i put a new sony unit in and the speakers are much better and do not distort and yes there is a big difference in sound (i think anyway) hope this helps




kenny can you remember what color the lead was for turning the amp on and off? im sure it was green. going to refit all my stuff into my new ST and cant remember what color it was

ta

Dal




i gave up in the end and bought a new sony unit (aftermarket unit)

if im write in saying someone on here did say they used the green wire

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#144465 - 20/10/08 02:41 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: kenny]
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yeh its not to bad mate it hasnt got the biggest kick on it but it will do for now




Do u use it with the standard speakers and does it make a big difference? I'm think that even if I add a sub, will the speakers distort even tho the sub will handle all the low?




yes mate at the mo im still using the standard speakers,i put a new sony unit in and the speakers are much better and do not distort and yes there is a big difference in sound (i think anyway) hope this helps




kenny can you remember what color the lead was for turning the amp on and off? im sure it was green. going to refit all my stuff into my new ST and cant remember what color it was

ta

Dal




i gave up in the end and bought a new sony unit (aftermarket unit)

if im write in saying someone on here did say they used the green wire




that was prob me who said use the green wire - lol

see you sunday fella

Dal
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#144466 - 23/10/08 06:28 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: w3dal]
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Hi, just been and bought a sub with built-in amp, I'm not that clued-up on this stuff so can you tell what i'll need to wire it in. I know I need an amp wiring kit but does that include power and audio cables? Are there different types of power cable I'll need or are they the same?

Also, has anyone links to any sites I might get them from eg Halfords?

Thanks
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#144467 - 23/10/08 06:41 PM Re: ICE help please- adding a sub [Re: ric77]
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Hi, just been and bought a sub with built-in amp, I'm not that clued-up on this stuff so can you tell what i'll need to wire it in. I know I need an amp wiring kit but does that include power and audio cables? Are there different types of power cable I'll need or are they the same?

Also, has anyone links to any sites I might get them from eg Halfords?

Thanks



wiring kit comes with power and audio go into your local ice shop and tell them u have eg: 600 watts 1000 watts ect ect and they will give u the right kit oh and make sure you dont put all the cables down one side of the car.
if your an hours drive or so come down to essex and i could give u a hand to fit it


Edited by st_essex (23/10/08 06:44 PM)

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