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#145872 - 09/11/08 11:51 PM Cold start problems
johnturn Offline
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Just had the car back from the garage, apparently they have checked everything out including a fault code check. Over the last week in the mornings the temprature has been around 2C and when starting the car I can hear whats sounds like running water from the dashboard. The car starts ok but the revs sit eractically bewteen 1600 and 900 up and down, if I try to pull away the car stalls. After a fews minutes the noise goes away the car can be driven and is perfect in every other way.

Any help would be great, I know theres a problem and a garage telling me theres not is not getting to the bottom of it, more like they cant be bothered spending the time finding it.

Cheers John

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#145873 - 10/11/08 08:40 AM Re: Cold start problems [Re: johnturn]
DAVE T ST Offline
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Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids
Throttle body, Hego sensors, Coil Pack, Plugs.

Who checked it out?
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#145874 - 10/11/08 03:25 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: DAVE T ST]
johnturn Offline
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Had it into my decent local, never had the car at Fraud in its life dont trust them. The items you suggest would they just cause a problem when the cars cold as once the car has warmed up everythig is fine. On a mild day the cars fine just when its been really frosty over night.

Cheers

John

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#145875 - 11/11/08 07:19 AM Re: Cold start problems [Re: johnturn]
DAVE T ST Offline
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Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids
It might be that you're running on cheap supermarket fuel??

I went to Asda the other night(in the wife's Focus) out of tightness because it was 92.9p per litre.

By the time I got home the idle was all over the place like you describe.

Use BP or shell

Does the car get much of a run out or do you do town driving?
You may need to give it a bit of a blow out.
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#145876 - 11/11/08 03:44 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: DAVE T ST]
johnturn Offline
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Registered: 22/09/07
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Thanks for the reply, I only have a problem when the cars cold, after 3-4 minutes everything is fine. Dont use supermarket petrol either but I do a lot of town driving.

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#145877 - 11/11/08 08:38 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: johnturn]
ST_RED Offline
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Registered: 29/07/07
Posts: 145
Loc: West Midlands
I use supermarket petrol, do mainly town driving & have had no trouble even when temperature goes below zero.

Definately sounds like a fault with your car.

Is it only the 1st start or does it happen again if you stop and leave it for a few hours (in the cold) before restarting??

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#145878 - 13/11/08 09:59 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: ST_RED]
johnturn Offline
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Just the first start in the morning when its generally 2c or below, cant work it out myself. Have topped up the coolant as that was running a little low and the cars been fine since. Unfortunatley the morning temp has been very mild the last week or so.

Like I say when it does happen after 2-3 minutes its all ok, and like you say on the second start its fine.

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#145879 - 24/11/08 08:12 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: johnturn]
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Having a problem with my car starting atm...
Sometimes wont start first time but will second
Sometimes the revs are at 500...give it a rev to about 2000 and it will return to idle as normal
Sometimes revs at 500 then just stalls after 1 or 2 seconds
But most of the time it is fine :P
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#145880 - 28/11/08 12:15 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Adam08]
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Registered: 26/04/07
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Quote:

Having a problem with my car starting atm...
Sometimes wont start first time but will second
Sometimes the revs are at 500...give it a rev to about 2000 and it will return to idle as normal
Sometimes revs at 500 then just stalls after 1 or 2 seconds
But most of the time it is fine :P




Have you had the ECU Update installed on your car yet?

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#145881 - 28/11/08 05:18 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Bradders]
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Quote:

Quote:

Having a problem with my car starting atm...
Sometimes wont start first time but will second
Sometimes the revs are at 500...give it a rev to about 2000 and it will return to idle as normal
Sometimes revs at 500 then just stalls after 1 or 2 seconds
But most of the time it is fine :P




Have you had the ECU Update installed on your car yet?




I have no idea its a 54 plate...took it in for its service the other
Ford want 160quid to replace front pads and 135 for the back!!
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#145882 - 28/11/08 05:43 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Adam08]
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#145883 - 28/11/08 08:25 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Adam08]
Bradders Offline


Registered: 26/04/07
Posts: 1148
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Having a problem with my car starting atm...
Sometimes wont start first time but will second
Sometimes the revs are at 500...give it a rev to about 2000 and it will return to idle as normal
Sometimes revs at 500 then just stalls after 1 or 2 seconds
But most of the time it is fine :P




Have you had the ECU Update installed on your car yet?




I have no idea its a 54 plate...took it in for its service the other
Ford want 160quid to replace front pads and 135 for the back!!




I think you have to ask them but this is a common fault with the ST's. Do you notice after short journeys that when you go to restart your engine it doesn't work?

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#145884 - 01/12/08 03:32 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Bradders]
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Yea drove it about 2miles to petrol station then it wouldnt start straight away but then just retry and it starts instantly havent had any problems since it was serviced
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#145885 - 01/12/08 04:28 PM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Adam08]
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Well during my last full service i asked them to check for ECU Updates and once they had updated it, i haven't had a problem since. This should resolve this problem.

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#145886 - 04/12/08 08:13 AM Re: Cold start problems [Re: Bradders]
azz0703 Offline
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Registered: 19/11/08
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my 56 plate zetec s used to do the exact same i would start it fine, and then after a few minutes of moving or if i stayed still, the revs would jump all over and make the car judder and jump like a bucking bronco lol, just sold the car bu would like to know what could of been causing it, i just thought it was some thing to do with being cold or the electronic choke bein on the fritz
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