think Dal meant you would loose Torque with the Mountune 185 cams.

somebody makes a turbo for the ST - how about that route ? Although I know you want NA.

Heat soak on the inlet side is allways going to rob you of power.

There are some very natty silicone inlet manifold gaskets that reduce heat transfer from the head into the inlet avaliable fromt he US.. these may well help the cause.. it is often the little things u do whilst tuning that have the most benefit..

My exhaust manifold will be ceramic coated to reduce under bonnet temps. It also has the benefit of keeping the heat in the exhaust gas and thus keeping the gas speed up, enhancing the scavanging effect of the exhaust pulse..

Cheers,

Rich.

performance ford this month tested ceramic and heat wrap on manifolds

And there conclusions were??

Both about the same. Ceramic slightly better. Came down to cost in the end. If you want budget go for heat wrap. If you can afford it deffinanltly go for the ceramic.

Mate if you want my opinion dont do any of this.Just pick up the supercharger kit and the intlet and you ve done!!

I am now with cams,full miltek,DS and kn 57...around 186 hp

Alonso,

I here what you are saying. But i am not going to go the supercharger root. I don't want it.. I am gonna go down the NA root.

Minister power are getting 260bhp out there 2.0l NA engines, 280bhp out of the 2.3 engines.

I believe this is possible in fiesta, with the right compression ratio, head work, cam spec's, induction and ECU..

to get 200bhp should be straight forward with the right modifications.

I will let you know how i get on. 200bhp cams have been ordered along with the manifold.

The manifold is going to zicotec to be ceramic coated. I am going to be using thermal barrier gaskets to mount it as well..

As with all things, it is a learning curve. I will post pics and progress as i go and keep you upto date with thwe gains.

Cheers,

rich.

sounds great Rich, look forward to seeing the progress!

Jam Sport still might be your best bet as they had throttle bodies running on a bored out 2.3 (to 2.5) NA engine... ok its supercharged now (as seen in the latest Performance Ford) but yeh.. they've done the 2L & 2.3L engines.

Right then guys, quick update for you all.

I have sourced the milltek 4-1 manifold and this is now with http://www.zircotec.com for ceramic coating..

I have also spoken to rick wood and have been told not to bother with the cosworth inlet or the cosworth 200bhp cams, so i will be retaining the OEM inlet but with the GGR CAI..

The cosworth inlet will lose me torque on a 2 litre as the ports are too big which i don't want and ric has a set of custom cams which offer increased torque and bhp by using increaed lift but a small overlap.. these combined with the cnc head should give some good gains.

see http://www.cncheads.co.uk for the head info..

I am going to source a 4-2-1 milltek manifold as well and do some back to back comparisons with custom maps to see if i can make some extra torque with the 4-2-1.

I will post picks of the manifold when i get it back from ceramic coating..

I will also post a dyno run in standard trim when i get one done, this will give me the base line to work from..

Cheers,

rich.

nice. Are these cams for low down power or higher up, what rev area ?
I ask in that I often consider the thinking behind Mountunes Stage 1 & 2. The Stage 2 hasn't really attracted much interest with the cams putting the bhp at the top and the torque too low down. Why didn't they just do one kit in the middle, probably marketing/insurance-maybe stage 2 was Track aimed.