gonna get it done this week.. mega busy at work at the mo..

Update.

GGR have finished the CAI..

I need to get the car on the dyno before monday, but at the momment i have a sickly wife and a truck load on at work.

I want to go to dyno dynamics rolling road and weston perfomace is the nearest to me, but i duno if i am gonna be able to get in there..

Update..

Got the CAI this morning.. Big thanks to GGR for turning it around so quick and deliveringit when they promised..

Also booked ont he dyno at 09:30 tommorow morning.. so I will defo have graph's up tommorow afternoon..

and pics

Steve,

Some pics for you... GGR Induction..




Cheers,

Rich.

very nice, looks to be fully enclosed, so can you add a cold air feed or does it use the existing one in the front slam panel.

It uses the standard position like the moontune one.. So should work pretty well..

Been to the dyno and the car ran 156bhp at 5600rpm and 155ft/lbs from 4200rpm to 5000rpm.

The standard map is however so rich it is untrue. I need someone to post a standard car with the afr graph for a comparison.

Cheers,

Rich.

Here are the dyno graphs for the baseline.

These were run on dyno dnamics rolling road. They are considered to be 100% accurate full stop. These are the same rollers the car will be run on post mods..

The first graph is flywheel hp and torque.

The second wheel hp and afr.




Cheers,

Rich.

remind us all where your at, so is that 156bhp totay standard or with the filter, good start anyway.

156bhp Standard..

heh up..

Back from jamsport. had exhaust, manifold and induction fitted.

With a dreamscience map and it made 173bhp on jam-sports rollers.. I will take it to the dyno dynamics rollers and see what i get. So a comparison can be made..

What have i learnt..

Ford ecu is f**king rubbish and so is Dream Science. I was looking at the software with Jamie and there are a mind boggling array of adjustments in there. The ECU works almost like a maths engine, in terms that it is looking to get to a final calculation. which is st150 can only make 150bhp. It pulls out throttle position, fueling, ignition.. All of these need to be disabled to get it work properly.

The problem being that the people who wrote the software are not quite sure what some of the bits do..

Long and short of it, is that to get any decent control over the engine parameters you need standalone management, which means binning the ford instrument cluster and the engine loom.

Considering a DS3000 box costs £400 and the software is £500, you are well on the way to a motec M48 for that money..

Cheers,

Rich.

uumm, so are you happy with results but not with ford ECU/DS.
Your halfway between the mountune kits without cams, you have 10bhp more than me, yes you had DS but I had ECU updates, so I think thats a result.
More importantly how useable is that 173bhp.
What do jamsport suggest as they are knocking 300+bhp out of these cars ?

Wooohoo , someone else knows that the black oak is pants.

The back off that it does is not necessarily to acheive 150PS it's to acheive Euro IV on a ignition and exhaust set up that is for Euro III.

Are you unable to live re-map the ECU like you can Diesels?

You can't live map. you can't even see what load site you are at. Dream Science is in my opinion not upto scratch and also the ford ECU can't be used to get any realistic results.

Basically you need another ecu, engine loom and dash.

rich.