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#146031 - 16/12/08 10:52 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
b3n Offline
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Sorry to take away from all the interesting talk with a really daft question but I was having a look round the site and couldnt find the answer,

but does having your engine remaped/tuned effect fuel econmy dramatically? may regret askking such a simple q.

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#146032 - 16/12/08 11:01 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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You can't live map. you can't even see what load site you are at. Dream Science is in my opinion not upto scratch and also the ford ECU can't be used to get any realistic results.

Basically you need another ecu, engine loom and dash.

rich.



i think with DS they dont have access to all the codes and so they will never have complete control of the ECU. mountune on the other have these and my map has had 300 changes over the standard map.

i agree about your comments with using aftermarket management like pectel or Emerald etc.

you should of noticed a difference now in torque especially in 2nd gear all the way to the redline.

and with regards to the guy posting about fuel eco. depends what map your using, the mods you have on the car and how you drive the car.

Dal
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#146033 - 16/12/08 11:25 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: w3dal]
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Typically ford's standard maps are quite rich so by leaning this out you should end up with more power and reduced consumption (improved economy). In reality, the fact that you have a more lively car typically means you tend to boot it around abit more wiping out any gains......
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#146034 - 16/12/08 11:53 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: steve1981]
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Thanks steve1981.

Stevethewhizz, have you had improvements on fuel economy because of your mountune?

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#146035 - 16/12/08 01:05 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: b3n]
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hmm. I wonder if moontune would do me a map.. Seems like they have the right kit..
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#146036 - 16/12/08 01:33 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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hmm. I wonder if moontune would do me a map.. Seems like they have the right kit..



you haven't posted up how your finding the car now compared to standard.

im interested to know how your finding it now, and see how your comments differ to mine

Dal
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#146037 - 16/12/08 01:39 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: b3n]
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Thanks steve1981.

Stevethewhizz, have you had improvements on fuel economy because of your mountune?



yes. As the car has more torque of which is very useable low down then MPG has improved slightly. My drive to work is only 6 miles and I can't get above 33mpg in this type of stop/start journey, other MT-ers with longer drives will confirm better improvements than I can regular see.
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#146038 - 16/12/08 01:42 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: w3dal]
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mountune on the other have these and my map has had 300 changes over the standard map. Dal



good point Dal, I knew there were a lot of I beleive small changes.
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#146039 - 16/12/08 01:48 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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hmm. I wonder if moontune would do me a map.. Seems like they have the right kit..



I don't know or would they be allowed to as I assume having full access to the Ford ECU would perhaps be limited to the Kits.
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#146040 - 16/12/08 01:53 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: w3dal]
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In terms of how i am finding it..

It is a lot smoother in terms of the power delivery and wants to rev harder, which is a good thing..

It is quicker through a series of corners that i drive every day by nearly 10mph, to the point where i start to break. So in real terms it is quicker on the road flat out.

The best bit is the increase in torque across the range means you don't need to spank it soo hard. i.e where you would normally drop a cog u don't need to.

Over all 100% happy with the mods i have added. It is just that the ECU strangles the car. bog standard these motors should be putting out 185bhp as i have said before.
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#146041 - 16/12/08 05:01 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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onwards then to next mod, good so far.
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#146042 - 16/12/08 09:36 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: YellowBadge]
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yeah..

I think cams next, and see what gains they give.. See if it beats the moontune 185bhp figure..
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#146043 - 16/12/08 09:45 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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I suspect so.
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#146044 - 17/12/08 09:14 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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yeah..

I think cams next, and see what gains they give.. See if it beats the moontune 185bhp figure..



with a live jam-sport map and the cams your be in the 190's

its not all about figures tho, its when the power comes in and how it drives and i think thats where the mountune might come out slightly better.


Edited by w3dal (17/12/08 09:17 AM)
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#146045 - 17/12/08 09:52 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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hmm. I wonder if moontune would do me a map.. Seems like they have the right kit..



I would imagine you could have the 185 map as you are having cams.

There's nothing that says you can't buy all the parts individually.

I wouldn't see a problem in having your own cams, manifold, exhaust etc and just having the Mountune Cat and ECU.
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