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#146046 - 17/12/08 09:59 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: DAVE T ST]
evo6rss Offline
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I had a chat with mountune and they may map individual cars. This will be a map for your car and will invalidate any warrenty with ford becuase it is outside of the agreements with ford.

I am waiting for them to come back to me.

Mountune have access to all of the paramaters in the ECU, not just some of them like dreamscience. They have mapped a few fiesta st's that run in the 24hr at the nurburgring, so they should know what they are doing.

I agree with the comments about peak figures, cam selection will be critical to getting a decent torque spread.
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#146047 - 17/12/08 10:03 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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I should imagine being Mountune that it won't be cheap, but it may be worth it.

Obviously you'll need to fit all the mods you are planning first to get the full benefit, maybe even map it running on Super Unleaded to get the best result??? ( I don't mean to teach you to suck eggs by the way )
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#146048 - 17/12/08 10:35 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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I had a chat with mountune and they may map individual cars. This will be a map for your car and will invalidate any warrenty with ford becuase it is outside of the agreements with ford.

I am waiting for them to come back to me.

Mountune have access to all of the paramaters in the ECU, not just some of them like dreamscience. They have mapped a few fiesta st's that run in the 24hr at the nurburgring, so they should know what they are doing.

I agree with the comments about peak figures, cam selection will be critical to getting a decent torque spread.




if you have a look on youtube your see the ST's they used for testing round the ring.

they spent a massive amount of time testing various exhaust types, manifolds, cams etc and what you see in the kits was the best of the bunch.

Was it Mr Jones you spoke to Evo?

Dal


Edited by w3dal (17/12/08 10:37 AM)

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#146049 - 17/12/08 10:49 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: w3dal]
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Yeah, Spoke to dave jones.. he seems like a decent chap..

tbh, i was taken out in one of Jamsports supercharged ST's when i was up there.. It was quick, proper quick..

It was a 2.3 with steel rods, high comp pistons, cams, cossie inlet and a big charger. Was running about 320bhp and 250ft/lbs..

It has had me thinking, for the money you can't beat the power or delivery. If i went that route then it is all done and sorted. I don't fancy going internal. So that would probably limit me to 250bhp to be on the safe side. but that should be plenty..
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#146050 - 17/12/08 10:59 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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i have also had the privilege of going out in one of there supercharged ST's and was the 2.0 converstion with cossie inlet and a few others bits and bobs hitting 301bhp on the rollers.

it was an animal and the power delivery is there whenever you need it, very impressed with the progress that has been made on these cars/engines in the last 12 months or so.

keep and eye out for petes jamsport 2.5 supercharger on throttle bodies. It was at a track day i attended last year at Snet and the noise was just unreal and was so quick.

Dal


Edited by w3dal (17/12/08 11:01 AM)
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#146051 - 17/12/08 11:09 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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LOL - well its good to see you are enjoying the mods which is the most important thing.

Mountune should be happy to custom map your car - they are a known engine tuner taking on custom work for racing, and I suspect that there are plenty of duratecs being used!

I thought jamsport were offering custom remaps? Are you running a standard programmed jobbie?
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#146052 - 17/12/08 11:43 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: steve1981]
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Jamsport loaded a map onto my car. To get around the CEL issues. They made some tweeks to the fueling.

tbh Jamie is not a big fan of the dreamscience stuff and he agree's it limits the power that can be made NA.

I spoke with Pete about his 2.5. Nice car. keeps lunching gearbox's though. It is having an MTX75 gearbox conversion for reliability.
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#146053 - 17/12/08 05:36 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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I want a SC on top of my MT conversion - that would be nice.
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#146054 - 17/12/08 05:37 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: YellowBadge]
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I want a SC on top of my MT conversion - that would be nice.


do it!!
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#146055 - 17/12/08 11:56 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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I had a chat with mountune and they may map individual cars. This will be a map for your car and will invalidate any warrenty with ford becuase it is outside of the agreements with ford.




Now thats interesting! Nice work there
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#146056 - 18/12/08 08:42 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: PinkRinse]
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Still - a mountune map would probably be worth it and you could probably get a dreamscience to store the orriginal map to be uploaded should anything go wrong (I'm guessing ford would never know?!)
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#146057 - 18/12/08 09:54 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: steve1981]
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Still - a mountune map would probably be worth it and you could probably get a dreamscience to store the orriginal map to be uploaded should anything go wrong (I'm guessing ford would never know?!)




From conversation, I believe mountune will lock the map out, so that it can't be overwritten by ford when they hook it up to the diagnostics..

Which could cause a few issues..
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#146058 - 18/12/08 10:01 AM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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Quote:

Quote:

Still - a mountune map would probably be worth it and you could probably get a dreamscience to store the orriginal map to be uploaded should anything go wrong (I'm guessing ford would never know?!)




From conversation, I believe mountune will lock the map out, so that it can't be overwritten by ford when they hook it up to the diagnostics..

Which could cause a few issues..




there is a code that they need to enter to be allowed to change anything on the etis system when your mountune car has been connected.

this stops anyone trying to put the mountune map on any other car that comes into fords.

Dal
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#146059 - 06/01/09 08:52 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: evo6rss]
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Registered: 04/12/08
Posts: 149
Loc: Woking, Surrey
Just seen this post, and as it happens I had just created a new post about the quest for power and the use of Throttle bodies

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_DuratecTuning.htm

see the kits at the botton of the web page

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#146060 - 25/06/09 01:32 PM Re: Tuning Package.. [Re: Unclebadger]
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heh guys,

have not posted for a while..

Car is running well. Booked into jam-sport for suspension and braking mods on the 14/08/09..

Having the bilstien suspension kit, HR front anti-roll bar, poly bushes, AP's and Quaife diff.

Then I am defo going for the supercharger conversion in September.. :-) ST2 conversion with 200bhp cams and cosworth inlet. Should make about 280bhp..

As for the NA tuning route, competely changed my mind as this is gonna be way too expensive..

Nice to be back.. :-) Rich.
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