#150728 - 22/01/09 05:42 PM
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Do you really find the handling that good?
Last night i gave it a bit of stick and it just let go...sliding all over the place
Always wary about giving it too much just feels too on edge
My astra sxi seemed to be alot better handling
My mate drove his bosses and he said the samething it was all over the place and you got no warning of when it was going to go it just went...
Like to hear your comments as it is supposed to be such a good handler
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#150730 - 22/01/09 06:18 PM
Re: Handling
[Re: Unclebadger]
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tried it on warm sticky tarmac
I think that is the nail on the head.
The is planted at all speeds. Now is the wrong time of year to push these cars anyway but most will struggle in these conditions.
What tires have you got? P-zero are crap and even worse in this weather.
As for being vague at high speeds. As long as your smooth it will really reward you and suprise alot of faster cars. It can snap but tbh my foucs snaps quicker than the st and gives you no warning. The st you get a little slide to tell you your at the limit then it snapps.
Best thing is wait until the spring/summer and then the car will really shine.
This is the older part of me speaking now but i wouldn't reccomend driving at speed this time of year anyway!! It's just stupid.
Saturday i saw a clear example of this when a mg zr went into the side of an astra coming the other way. Mg was really going for it and hit a bit of ice. End result i did'nt recognise the mg until i spotted the badge. And the astra had front & side airbags deployed.
Just take it easy at this time of year guys n girls. Its really not worth risking if there is any ice about.
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#150732 - 22/01/09 07:46 PM
Re: Handling
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I have Pzeros on the back and veredersteins (don't know how its spelt) on the front and its the front that let go
Had budget tyres on my astra :P
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#150733 - 22/01/09 08:03 PM
Re: Handling
[Re: Adam08]
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My view is I very much like the way the car handles, I don't drive like an idiot however (and I'm not saying anyone here does).
I've seen this all over the site...
"What tires have you got? P-zero are crap and even worse in this weather."
And every time I read it I'm confused, my car is about 9 months old so still original tyres, original everything in fact. Anyway if the standard tyres are so bad why have Ford stuck them on the car? Hold on I think can answer my own question... cost cutting?
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#150734 - 22/01/09 08:06 PM
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[Re: Adam08]
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I only picked mine up on Jan 2nd and have already nearly been caught out in this awful freezing weather. It seems stange but as you really push on with some poke it into corners (given during the current conditions) it does feel slightly vague Bring on the proper driving weather and I'm sure everything will be better 
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#150736 - 22/01/09 08:22 PM
Re: Handling
[Re: Unclebadger]
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The tyres have got a lot to do with it plus I found that there was not enough give in the suspension over bumps etc and that used to knock you off line.
The chassis is set up for lift off oversteer as well.
The tyres would have been a deal done with Pirelli, they won the bid, probably $5 per car.
I have PZero Neros on my TDCi yet suffer NO over/understeer whatsoever, funny that.
I do get wheelspin on take off though.
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#150737 - 22/01/09 08:29 PM
Re: Handling
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Tyres isalmost certainly the main problem here for both Adam and Unclebadger. The P zeros are terrible except on good road surfaces in the summer time. Pazza, no idea why Ford thought p zeros were a good idea, I suppose it is viewed as a quality brand, they were certainly highly ranked by myself until I drove the ST. In this weather it isn't exactly sensible to be booting the ST on roundabouts and the like. You need to know the cars (and your own) limits, and really only test this when there's no one else near you! I still hve the original p zeros on the back, and the back can get twitchy at times. The front though has been greatly improved and the car was transformed by the replacement of the p zeros. Originall changed for ZZ3s which I recommend and have since put on toyo proxes, which I have no complaint at present, but I look forward to trying it in mild wet and dry conditions, not had the opportunity yet! Anyways, sort out your tyres guys, the ST really doesn't need budget tyres. £12-150 will sort you two new ZZ3s or Toyo proxes 
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#150738 - 22/01/09 08:31 PM
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#150739 - 22/01/09 08:31 PM
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I've got P-zeros on my old clio 172 and they've been superb on that, they just don't feel 'right' on my though - very bizarre
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