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#153685 - 15/02/09 01:43 PM Radio & Sub Help!!!! lol
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been trying for a couple of months now to wire in my amp to the sony gen 2 head unit ive now been told theres no way my head unit can come out now without breaking it as the release mech is broken ive traced back the wiring loom but under the seat theres wiring going across what i think is the top of the fuel tank is these the wires supplying the rear speakers as it would be perfect to cut into???? i dont wanto be cutting into something thats gonna damage my car
thanks!


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#153686 - 15/02/09 01:50 PM RE: Radio & Sub Help!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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I'm not sure, but it maybe more useful to everyone to change the thread title to "Radio & Sub Help" or something

There must be a way to get the head unit out, although it may involve taking a section of the dashboard away. Also, you may need a separate level controller supplying the amp or you'll have no control over the level of bass.


Edited by ST06 (15/02/09 01:55 PM)

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#153687 - 15/02/09 01:57 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: Dave_P]
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got a bass leveler on the amp ive taken it to 2 diffrent shops and they couldnt get it out the keys just got stuck and i dont wanto take the chance and fourcing it and break the dash, i want to cut into the rear speaker cables but it looks a lot of trouble getten the rear door cards off but i have noticed if you pop the rear bench seats up theres wiring in casing going across it and then down the center of the car ive opend the casing up and ive got i think a white cable a black cable and green stripey and something else
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#153688 - 15/02/09 02:37 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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nope there not the wires for the rear speaker i dont particuly want to take the rear door cards off as i know something will go drasticuly wrong and there isint enough cable on my transformer box to wire it in there i havent got enough leverage from the wring loom to cut in there but i have noticed when u take the glove box out u have wires taped up on the left hand side which have the violet coloured wires could these be where i can cut into???
cheers
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#153689 - 15/02/09 02:55 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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I fitted my sub to a sony gen 2 head unit. Well not exactly as i tapped into the rear speakers. Sound quality still is very good. You bring the power cable down the passenger side. Remote wire also goes down that side and run that into the fuse box. Preferably the audio fuse (the smaller of the 2) then bring the rear speaker wires into the boot area. You will need an RCA convertor. This allows you to plug in the speaker cables and then run the RCA leads to the amp. The RCA convertor costs around £25. I put mine in with the spare wheel area so it looks tidy.

Hope this helps mate. Its the only way without taking out the stereo. As I said mine works perfectly. If you need to know what colour cable is positive and negative let me know as i have the info.

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#153690 - 15/02/09 03:32 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: STchris89]
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ive got all the gear ive allready ran the power cable i just need to tee into the rear speaker cables sumwhere without removing the head unit as its buggerd up and cannot be removed and preferly not taken the rear doorcards out there must be easy to get hold of wiring in the car sumwhere to tee into lol

stchris89 i dont suppose you have any piccys of your install??
cheers
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#153691 - 15/02/09 03:40 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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I dont really have any pictures I will get some for you in the week. Which specific bits were you after? I might be able to explain it instead.

The rear doorcards come out very easily only trouble is you have to remove the rear seat. Its only a couple of screws though, and use a trim removal tool for the doorcards. I put the junction in next to the rear speaker. Its easy enough. Took me about 4 hours from start to finish.

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#153692 - 15/02/09 03:46 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: STchris89]
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did you tee into both rears or just the 1? as the rca convertor only has about 50mm of cable for teeing im really dreading to take the door card of as it looks like it will affect the door seals and i dont want anything to snap lol as thats my warrenty down the drain cheers for your help btw!
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#153693 - 15/02/09 05:37 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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Put it this way. My car is an 08 plate and was about 3 months old when i ripped it apart. The clips are made to come off again. They just clip on and off. As for the RCA convertor. I used some speaker cable courtesy of Halfrauds. You will need to take it off both sides.

I presume you have run the power and remote down the side sill? You will need to remove the door seal but it goes back on easy enough. Best bit of advice I can give you is to make sure you take your time and fully insulate connections, strap the wires down so they do not rattle against the body work.

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#153694 - 15/02/09 10:53 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: STchris89]
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I had the rear panels off today...took out the seats fitted new speakers and put back together in 2 hours and thats with a trip to my mates house to get a tool as well

The cables for the rear speakers were grey and cream and violet i think
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#153695 - 16/02/09 12:26 AM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: Adam08]
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mines a 08 model too ive got the power cable running through the bulkhead from battery and down the sill into the boot i thought the remote could just go in the converter box as it looks as if its got a remote out??? or would that just constantly power the amp on and not turn off :s how did you wire into the fuse box???
gonna brave it and try the door cards tomo night if weathers ok lol

this is what i got cheap and cheerful

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370096454189


Edited by shiftytc (16/02/09 12:44 AM)
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#153696 - 16/02/09 04:39 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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What do you need to wire into the fusebox for?
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#153697 - 16/02/09 06:34 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: Adam08]
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remote cable but i thought icould just wire into the rca convertor box as it looks like it as a remote out onit
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#153698 - 16/02/09 07:42 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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You possibly could, I was only saying what I did and it works so thought I mite as well let you know that you COULD do that if you couldnt think of anywhere to put the remote.

Sorted it yet?

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#153699 - 18/02/09 05:06 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: STchris89]
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havent tackled it yet chris apart from me live supply as its too dark and wet when i finish work im gonna give it a butchers at the weekend if the gf lets me play lol cheers for ure advice ill let u know how i get on :P
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#153700 - 21/02/09 05:50 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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right tackled this today teed into the rears went to fire up and nothing no power going to my amp :s i think it is a ground problem so was wondering if anybody can tell me where they put there ground on the car?????
cheers!
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#153701 - 21/02/09 06:24 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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The earth i put into a bolt under the spare wheel which is connected to the body, Might be a stupid question but have you A) connected the power to the battery? B) checked the fuse near to the battery, C) turned the amp volume up?

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#153702 - 21/02/09 06:28 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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right tackled this today teed into the rears went to fire up and nothing no power going to my amp :s i think it is a ground problem so was wondering if anybody can tell me where they put there ground on the car?????
cheers!




here u go


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#153703 - 21/02/09 07:25 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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cheers fella ill be putting it there first thing in the morn yup live is fine and fuse just getting nothing to the amp cause the only thing i could find near was bolted it to the back of the seat as i couldnt find anything on the body but cheers st essex for the piccy hopefully finally be up and running tomo
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#153704 - 22/02/09 02:23 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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ahhhhhh this is driving me mad now its earthed properly still no power to my amp i bought another power lead and wired it outside the car just to see if thats the fault and still the amp was lifeless im thinking now either the amp is dud which shouldnt be as its brand new or a remote fault i presumed that the 5th wire on the rca converter is a remote out but ive just bought another 1 from halfrauds and the 5th wire on there says earth :S can anybody help me out on this?????
cheers!
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#153705 - 22/02/09 03:27 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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My remote comes straight from the amp not the RCA convertor. Not sure if there is an option for that on your amp? Does your amp come with a fuse already in it or do you have to put your own in?

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#153706 - 22/02/09 03:32 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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Sounds like a remote prroblem - take some cable and send it from the mains input on the amp into remote input - see if you get any life out of it
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#153707 - 22/02/09 04:31 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: sandyle]
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my amp has it's on fuse it's a kicker amp and sub just tried linking the live and remote together and it worked yay! but now I need to find away to wire the remote lead
thanks for all your help so far
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#153708 - 22/02/09 04:32 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: sandyle]
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its defo the remote

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#153709 - 22/02/09 04:45 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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yup defo the remote so all i gotta do now is find sumwhere to run the remote to power the amp on and off :S lol then whens thats done i will be 1 happy chappy
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#153710 - 22/02/09 05:31 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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cant help u on that one

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#153711 - 22/02/09 05:44 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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couple of people have said wire the remote from the amp into the fuse box but i cant see how that can be done as theres just fuse terminals i take it you got rid of the factory head unit and used a aftermarket as they have a remote out lol
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#153712 - 22/02/09 05:47 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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yes mate had the same prob as u have so just went and bought a sony unit

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#153713 - 22/02/09 05:50 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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To run it off the fuse box you just Tee into the wire that comes out of the back of the fuse. Use the small of the 2 audio fuses as that turns on and off with ignition. You will have to remove the glove box and unscrew the fuse box to make it more accesable.

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#153714 - 22/02/09 05:53 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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lol i gotta keep the standard plus i quite like it i recken i haveto go down the road and pay a massive bill and get it done at a shop which wasent the route i wanted to go cause of the time ive spent onit and i dont like getten defeated
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#153715 - 22/02/09 06:01 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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lol i gotta keep the standard plus i quite like it i recken i haveto go down the road and pay a massive bill and get it done at a shop which wasent the route i wanted to go cause of the time ive spent onit and i dont like getten defeated




it wouldnt cost alot to install only about 50 pound

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#153716 - 22/02/09 06:03 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: STchris89]
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To run it off the fuse box you just Tee into the wire that comes out of the back of the fuse. Use the small of the 2 audio fuses as that turns on and off with ignition. You will have to remove the glove box and unscrew the fuse box to make it more accesable.




chris have u got a pic u can put up

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#153717 - 22/02/09 06:04 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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£50 for 1 cable im in the wrong buisness lol
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#153718 - 22/02/09 06:06 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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£50 for 1 cable im in the wrong buisness lol





sorry i mean the hole thing

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#153719 - 22/02/09 06:12 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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lol its all done part from 1 end of the remote i found an easier way ive teeing into the rear speakers than everyone has been saying just lower the seats down pull the top clips away on the door card reach ure arm in and unclip the terminals to the rear pull the cable ino the boot tee in and then connect it back to the speaker done in minutes but where gloves if not you may be missing your knuckles afterwards
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#153720 - 22/02/09 06:28 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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lol its all done part from 1 end of the remote i found an easier way ive teeing into the rear speakers than everyone has been saying just lower the seats down pull the top clips away on the door card reach ure arm in and unclip the terminals to the rear pull the cable ino the boot tee in and then connect it back to the speaker done in minutes but where gloves if not you may be missing your knuckles afterwards






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#153721 - 22/02/09 06:34 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: kenny]
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lol thats the bit i dnt know what to do with lol
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#153722 - 09/03/09 04:09 PM Re: hellllllllllllllllllllp!!!! lol [Re: shiftytc]
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STchris89 is this what you used to tap into your fusebox?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ADD-A-CIRCUIT-ATO-...A1%7C240%3A1318
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