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#171401 - 06/07/09 10:12 AM Road Tax
Alex_H Offline


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I was just checking how much I'll have to pay at the end of the month as my tax expires and am annoyed that if it was 5g/km less we would all be in a lower tax band

Plus we are in Band 'I' which at the moment is £175 a year, as from next year it will be £200! And as from next year they are also starting a new scheme where you pay more for the 1st year of ownership, then a bit less for the rest of the life of the car, so Band 'I' will be.... £300! for the 1st year then back down to £200 (I think) for the rest Unlucky for ppl if buying a new car next year with high Co2, but I suppose not many new cars will have such high Co2 Its all here New Tax's

I wouldn't mind but the roads are in a terrible state around here so where is my money going
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#171402 - 06/07/09 10:16 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: Alex_H]
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yep... this country is becoming more and more like a joke...


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#171403 - 06/07/09 10:32 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: Kaxe]
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RIP OFF!!!!!!! tax on everything to do with motors is high, If we were MPs we could claim it all back, they dont live in the real world.
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#171404 - 06/07/09 12:07 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Tez]
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I only drive 5000 a year so why should I pay more than 1.2 corsa who does 10,000 a year ?
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#171405 - 06/07/09 12:25 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: YellowBadge]
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Well said, Steve. We do even less (around 4000) so we pollute less than many smaller engined cars that do the average mileage of 10-12k. But be careful what you wish for. This government (and the green lobbyists who call their tune) would LOVE to have you filling in forms to justify your driving and proving your mileage. The next step would be to 'pre-book' all your car journeys....

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#171406 - 06/07/09 09:48 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Andy2]
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Steve, you hit the nail on the head I don't do the 'average' miles either

Also can a site mod rectify my spelling mistake in the thread title and then delete this sentence
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#171407 - 06/07/09 09:58 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Alex_H]
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I'm going to write to DVLA with photo of my tripmeter and ask for a refund.
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#171408 - 06/07/09 10:05 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: YellowBadge]
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#171409 - 06/07/09 10:12 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Alex_H]
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#171410 - 06/07/09 10:29 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Adam08]
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i have always though road tax should be on usage ie on fuel then scrap the rent in the window that way you pay for what you use
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#171411 - 07/07/09 07:11 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: Anthony1664]
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i have always though road tax should be on usage ie on fuel then scrap the rent in the window that way you pay for what you use




I have said the same thing for a long time. how can it be fair if you do say 4000 miles a year and someone else does 100,000 miles a year but you both pay the same.

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#171412 - 07/07/09 03:27 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: paul0407]
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If it was put on fuel it would also mean any foreigners coming over from france etc would pay the road tax and no one would get away without taxing their car
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#171413 - 07/07/09 05:32 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Adam08]
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Indeed, how much is spent each year enforcing road tax evaders from this country? I know one of the reasons used in the past is that it ensures that people insure and mot their car since they need this in order to tax it, but the figures for uninsured cars on the road seem to suggest this doesn't have an effect. In any case with all the ANPR about these days the police should be able to instantly tell which cars shouldn't be on the road.
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#171414 - 07/07/09 09:53 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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We have a house near us with 2 cars outside, both untaxed. It really annoys me One is a people carrier, the other a suzuki, they keep them on their
home made drive. One of them is used everyday at least 2-3 times per day. One morning I saw the untaxed van coming down our road and thought good, they must notice this car, but when I came home from work the car was still there no notices on or anything
I don't know how they slipped the net?? It's still driven daily, it's so annoying
Bet they wouldn't have ignored it, if it was my car!!
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#171415 - 08/07/09 06:03 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: rudest1970]
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We have a house near us with 2 cars outside, both untaxed. It really annoys me One is a people carrier, the other a suzuki, they keep them on their
home made drive. One of them is used everyday at least 2-3 times per day. One morning I saw the untaxed van coming down our road and thought good, they must notice this car, but when I came home from work the car was still there no notices on or anything
I don't know how they slipped the net?? It's still driven daily, it's so annoying
Bet they wouldn't have ignored it, if it was my car!!




You can send an e-mail to DVLA to inform them that the vehicles are being used regularly and they will track them.

If the cars are declared SORN then if they're parked off road when not in use they are comitting no offence which is why they are slipping through the net.

I have reported loads and loads of people for using cars with no tax with no regrets whatsoever, why should I have?, I pay mine.

If they've got no tax they've normally got no insurance either.
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#171416 - 08/07/09 07:25 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: DAVE T ST]
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I agree with Dave... i'd be reporting them without question... I have to pay two road taxes... one huge sum for my and another £165 for my uneconomically friendly Zetec.. so thats around... £400+ in road tax alone for cars that I can only drive one at a time... you lot think you got it bad?
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#171417 - 08/07/09 07:04 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Scotty]
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The RS isn't that bad £245 a year in tax only 40 more than the ST
Try the new RS £400+ in tax
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#171418 - 08/07/09 07:14 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Adam08]
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The new RS isn't as bad as you think Adam. Ford managed to somehow get it to register emissions of 225 g/km CO2, which means it just scrapes into the new band K and will be £245. One gram more and it would have £425 per year.
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#171419 - 08/07/09 07:23 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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Surely its more expensive for the first year with this crap new system they have in place
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#171420 - 08/07/09 09:21 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Adam08]
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Think my parents have bought me some illegal plates and really worried about the tax and stuff.
Might be without car for weeks if i have to get a new plate.

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#171421 - 08/07/09 10:16 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Adam08]
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Surely its more expensive for the first year with this crap new system they have in place




Yes for any registered after April 2010 - which probably won't be all that many new RS's since they'll be ceasing production not long after this - then for the first year it's the higher rate of £550. Normally though it will be exactly the same tax as the Mk1 Focus RS.
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#171422 - 09/07/09 05:50 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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I agree also that the government should just add 1-2p onto the price of petrol and scrap road tax. If you have a less economical car or drive alot of miles then you should pay more by buying more fuel.

The road tax is spent on practically everything but the roads, bridges etc. It goes to the NHS, defence, education and other non related sectors. The roads are in a serious state in this country and need fixing!

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#171423 - 09/07/09 07:00 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: SI_ST]
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I agree also that the government should just add 1-2p onto the price of petrol and scrap road tax.




they do that every 6 months anyway!!!!!!!
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#171424 - 09/07/09 07:35 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Dan_The_Man]
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I agree that the state of a lot of the roads in this country are appalling. It doesn't help that you then get some idiot councils arguing that potholes should be left untouched as they are a traffic calming measure!

Unfortunately I think that the conditions are going to get even worse before they get better. Spending on roads and road maintenance will be cut after the next election regardless of who wins, in order to balance the books. At least it won't be the Liberals who said earlier this year that we should cut the roads budget by 90% to encourage people onto public transport (don't buses go on roads also?).
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#171425 - 09/07/09 09:32 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: ChrisCumbria]
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I agree that the state of a lot of the roads in this country are appalling. It doesn't help that you then get some idiot councils arguing that potholes should be left untouched as they are a traffic calming measure!




So, When the road tax renewal form comes through the post.... WHY!! WHAT FOR!!
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#171426 - 22/07/09 08:48 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: Kev]
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guys!
please do not complain about your taxes! do you know how much money do i have to spend for having an ST, here in Turkey?

here is the answer: it's 1700 TL in other words about 800 Pounds!
and we do not pay for our CO2 amount, we pay for our car's engine capacity. that means i pay more money than a guy who is driving a 1.6 lt mondeo. that's crazy!
if you have a car like a Focus RS (2.5 liter), you pay about 1200 pound annually. that's the same amount as a Porsche Cayman.

and consider that we have the highest petrol prices in the whole world.

it's 1.2 pounds per liter, unleaded 97 ron.

enough said i think...

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#171427 - 22/07/09 09:33 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: drummer]
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guys!
please do not complain about your taxes! do you know how much money do i have to spend for having an ST, here in Turkey?

here is the answer: it's 1700 TL in other words about 800 Pounds!
and we do not pay for our CO2 amount, we pay for our car's engine capacity. that means i pay more money than a guy who is driving a 1.6 lt mondeo. that's crazy!
if you have a car like a Focus RS (2.5 liter), you pay about 1200 pound annually. that's the same amount as a Porsche Cayman.

and consider that we have the highest petrol prices in the whole world.

it's 1.2 pounds per liter, unleaded 97 ron.

enough said i think...




Ouch... That's stupid... paying for the size of the engine... ...You might aswell get the smallest 1 litre you can then and turbo it...

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#171428 - 22/07/09 09:54 AM Re: Road Tax [Re: Kaxe]
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#171429 - 22/07/09 07:44 PM Re: Road Tax [Re: Alex_H]
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I was in Turkey last week at the petrol was cheap just under 2 lera which is about 80p
But thats a ridiculous amount of tax!
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