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and tell us if your misssing the low down power ?

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To be honest I haven't noticed any loss low down. If you look at the 0-60 figures on MT's website, the 165 kit is 7.1 secs and the 185 is 7.0 secs. So it's a fraction better, not that you'd notice it. It's when you hit 4500rpm you take off. So i'm well chuffed with my investment. If you got a spare £500 i'd recommend it.

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does it actually stall or just feels like it will.

quick refrase of above - does it still pull from low speed when dawdling along in 2nd or 3rd, thats what I really like about mine.

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you changed your fuel yet mate?

tesco 99ron is the best for the 185

Dal

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Yeah i've been using V-Power for several months now. It definitely helps.

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how you finding the difference in the pops compared to 165.

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Tell you what, it pops for fun!! Last thing Dave Moore from MT said is "enjoy the pops and bangs"! It pops a lot more than the 165 kit so, it may annoy the hell out of some people!

I've got used to it and sounds great if you slow down using the gears.

When I'm free end of Jan/ beg Feb, I'll pop up and demo it to you.

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has your idle sorted itself mate? whats you mpg like now? i have 165 and have been in a few 185 cars now and i didnt realy notice much different low down either, just keep saying to myself dont do it your cars fine, im abit worried something might go wrong later on down the line or i wont like it and will want to go back! but on the other hand 185 bhp and a v.fast 0-100 time! and the pops and bangs! might have to be done!

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Well, yes and no!! I've learnt to give it slightly more gas when pulling away from a stationary position/reversing. Dave Moore at MT said it's the way these cams operate. However, I serviced it last week and feels better. You still need to give it slightly more gas than the 165 though.

I understand the position you're in because, I was thinking exactly the same about upgrading to the 185 kit. I just decided to do it and knew I could go back if I wanted to. MT gave me the original cams back, just incase you have any doubts.

Glad you've witnessd there isn't much loss low down as a lot of 165 owners think there's a big difference.

Others say the kit isn't made for the normal roads. Again, I disagree because the cams don't kick in till later on therefore, fuel consumption is slightly better round town.

To get the most out of this kit you can rev it high obviously within the speed limits. The beauty is that when you hit 4500rpm, it picks up speed very quickly (as the 0-100 figures suggest). This is great, I love it!!

Hope this helps you mate

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knew I could go back if I wanted to. MT gave me the original cams back, just incase you have any doubts.

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However, one thing I cannot get used to is how lumpy it's at around idle. Through conversations with Mountune, they advised it's due to the performance cams. Even with nearly 10 years of driving experience, this has affected my driving ability in the lower rev range as it can stall quite easily. You need to ensure you give it some gas when pulling away etc

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You'll find some days its fine other days its a little lumpy but like others have said this is what happens when you install cams of any brand. Sometimes you just need a touch more on the gas thats all.

For me when I went from 165 to 185 it didn't change my driving style at all in terms of pulling off and I'm yet to get close to stalling because of the upgrade but maybe thats because I knew the idle will be lumpy. Hell Dave at Mountune even reminded me what to expect compared to the 165.

Using the peak torque it has changed my driving style because I use the gears so I drive it a lot harder plus add a Quaife ATB diff and your singing around the track

I do believe Mountune will be offering a Quaife Diff fitting service soon but it won't be Ford warranty approved.

Glad your enjoying the upgrade Mounty!

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i realy dont know what to do! do i stick 165 or go 185??

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Havnt had a go in the 185 yet, but I think I got slaughtered by one today, traffic light GP Me 165 BHP, a Black ST, and a very played with BMW 530, off we go the BMW is lacking the initial pull but as the black ST starts pulling a slight 1/2 car length lead I notice the Mountune yellow Badge, oops I think we nail the cars through 2nd 3rd the BMs nowhare the Black ST has got 3-4 car lengths on me now up to 115 and I had to start braking hard, we stopped at the next set of lights, I screemed over to him 185, he just smilled, lights changed I turned left he turned right the BMW came through as if he hadnt used his brakes giving the w anchor sign I just laughed, if thats a 185 im having mine done it was real quick compaired to mine

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another quick question for you mate on a scale of 1-10 1 being slowest how much faster do you feel the car is now, thanks

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I'd say about 6. Well worth the money

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i realy dont know what to do! do i stick 165 or go 185??

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go 185 and you wont look back.

Dal

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Totally agree Dal - 185 all the way

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I do believe Mountune will be offering a Quaife Diff fitting service soon but it won't be Ford warranty approved.

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Others say the kit isn't made for the normal roads. Again, I disagree because the cams don't kick in till later on therefore, fuel consumption is slightly better round town.

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Others say the kit isn't made for the normal roads. Again, I disagree because the cams don't kick in till later on therefore, fuel consumption is slightly better round town.

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I was under the impression that more aggresive cams only go to worsen the fuel economy?

I think from everything i've read about the 185 kit so far, it sounds as though once you pull off the forecourt after having the upgrade you think, "s**t, i shouldn't have had this done, it's worse to drive!!" And then given an hour or two it begins to grow on you, until finally you love it :P

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like a bad haircut

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I was under the impression that more aggresive cams only go to worsen the fuel economy?

I think from everything i've read about the 185 kit so far, it sounds as though once you pull off the forecourt after having the upgrade you think, "s**t, i shouldn't have had this done, it's worse to drive!!" And then given an hour or two it begins to grow on you, until finally you love it :P

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To be honest with you mate, you're totally correct. I don't disagee with you.

Like you said, you think s**t what have I done! But it grows on you after a couple of weeks, especially when you're keeping up with quite a few cars now.