God I can not wait to test drive this car...hopefully enjoy it...and then do the deal and get shut of my Ibiza FR!

Trouble is I have Performance Blue and Red side by side here (pictures that is) and it's going to be a hard choice for me to make!

Gazza...

I'm afraid im just gonna have to wait and see now until i have seen the final list of colours until i choose mine!

White, white, white!

has any1 een the new renault clio 182 cup! it will do
0-60 in 6.9 secs and has all the usual spec abs esp etc
i think maybe ford are waiting to release it so
they can make a few alterations. wot do u think?

The 182 Cup has been around for quite a while and wins a massive ammount of praise wherever it goes except for the niggles that are the drivers position and overall build quality.

I've gone up against a 172 and that was damn quick so imagine the 182 to be quite a bit of kit. It's why Ford have really got their work cut out as the Clio weighs in £13k when really you'd expect the Fiesta RS to be going up against it more than the ST, but with the RS far out of sight...

They'd of no doubt sold me a Clio earlier this year but when I popped into my local dealer on my push bike they didn't give me the time of day. I've since sent their sales manager a photo of my brand new Mondeo ST and detailed the service I received, or rather lack of. That's the thing to remember, it's not all about the car when people buy stuff.

Ahhh, doesn't really matter how quick they are. The ST is cheaper to insure, better looking and will handle better.

Dunno about the handling - the French do seem to be able to come out with some gems. You're right about the looks though. Yuck! (comparatively speaking).

Did i hear a comparison to French Junk?

Yes they may go fast but by god they do fall apart and when one thing starts falling off the whole lot goes lol.

Agreed, i keep hearing about really bad realiabilty issues with french cars, espically the renaults!!!

Guy on one of the other forums I used eventually retured his after 9months of hell for a refund. Shocking build quality apparently. Shame, although great news for the ST as that is excellently put together.

Indeed, Fords are very well built... exactly what they say "built to last"

The ST handling will easily surpass that of it's competitors - it's done some great times on the Lommel Handling test track. Since the mk4 Fiesta onwards, handling and driving dynamics has always been important on all new Fords - pretty much all of our cars are class leaders in this department

Gareth

Agreed. I get bored with the performance of my cars pretty quickly, but the handling always keeps me entertained.

You need to own a Cosworth then Dave. I never got bored of the performance of my Saff! I did get bored of the bills however....

As for the 0-60 time on the 182 CUP, the Renault webpage says it does it in 7.2 seconds rather than 6.9