#2768 - 14/10/04 07:19 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Scotty]
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What are you saying there Scotty.
If you change to 3rd and then finally reach 4700rpm (3rd gear @60mph) it is not full power and adding an extra gear change is going to make a huge difference to the 0-60 time.
Using 1st & 2nd gears will get you your quickest 0-60time. If you want to carry on accelerating past 60 then yes 3rd gear will be necessary, as will 4th and 5th.
Oh, and peak power is @ 6000rpm.
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#2769 - 14/10/04 07:31 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Hugh]
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Nice one Hugh. I can see what Scott is saying, but tbh, I'd rather have a car with shorter ratios. The ST170 can hit something stupid like 180mph in 2nd, and the long ratios suck!
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#2770 - 14/10/04 07:52 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Hugh]
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#2772 - 14/10/04 09:07 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Hugh]
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#2774 - 14/10/04 09:27 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: supercharged]
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#2775 - 14/10/04 09:42 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Scotty]
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LOL!!! Caught me on a nerve I think! Anyway, I have just had it properly explained to me by my Forumla 1 chum, so will say he's right instead (especially as he agrees with me! ). It all comes down to what's called tractive effort. This is the force applied to the road by the wheel to cause movement. It is caculated by by multiplying the torque by the total ratio of power train and dividing this sum by the rolling radius of the driving tyres. As you can guess, if you reduce the total power train ratio (say moving from 1st to 2nd) it reduces the over TE figure meaning you are reducing the overall force applied to the road. It is infinitly more technical way of looking at it than I was, but the result is the same. To get the best accelerating time you would need to calculate the optimum gearchange based on a vehicles power/torque/gear ratio/differential/tyre radius. Personally, I think I'll just go and have a brew instead as it feels like I'm back at school!
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#2777 - 14/10/04 10:27 PM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: supercharged]
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I would rather have a close ratio box anyway. Hitting 60 in 2nd is a bad thing IMO when you only have 150bhp. The only thing it does is reduce the 0-60 time which is itself a meaningless measure.
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#2778 - 15/10/04 07:07 AM
Re: Fiesta ST Gear Ratios.
[Re: Hugh]
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Quote:
LOL!!! Caught me on a nerve I think!
Anyway, I have just had it properly explained to me by my Forumla 1 chum, so will say he's right instead (especially as he agrees with me! ).
It all comes down to what's called tractive effort. This is the force applied to the road by the wheel to cause movement.
It is caculated by by multiplying the torque by the total ratio of power train and dividing this sum by the rolling radius of the driving tyres.
As you can guess, if you reduce the total power train ratio (say moving from 1st to 2nd) it reduces the over TE figure meaning you are reducing the overall force applied to the road.
It is infinitly more technical way of looking at it than I was, but the result is the same. To get the best accelerating time you would need to calculate the optimum gearchange based on a vehicles power/torque/gear ratio/differential/tyre radius.
Personally, I think I'll just go and have a brew instead as it feels like I'm back at school!
Lesson number 1 - never argue with something Steve says about cars...
Hugh and I learned that one a lonnng time ago!
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