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#295924 - 04/04/11 10:26 AM 3rd service interval help
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Hi guys. My 3rd service interval is coming up in a few weeks so I’m trying to get as much details because my warranty is out so I want to do it myself to save money and learn.
Anyway, I got these items for now:

Castrol magnatec 5w30 A1 + oil filter + plug
Denso Iridium power IT16 plugs
Magnecor KV85 leads + Goodridge Hose Kit for Ford Fiesta Mk6 ST150 – on the way from UK
Fuel filter (Bosch) – not sure if this one needs to be changed at 29 000km?

What I’m not sure of, are the fluids for the Power steering and the procedure for changing the power steering fluid and brake fluid.

For the power steering fluid should I get the original at Ford (very expensive) or is it enough that it has Ford Specs: WSS-M2C 195-A. BTW should it be red of green because I heard it should be red and one guy at parts shop told me that my car uses green fluid like Mercedes? Is 1L enough for flushing?
For the procedure for changing/flushing, I saw 2 procedures mentioned here on the forum:

1.Remove plugs and then drain/refill be “powering up” a few times (I don’t know if this is healthy)
2.Turn the car on and refill from the top while draining (fluid goes very quickly out so it could be a problem?)




For the brake fluid change, I got that bleeding tool from eBay so I’m hopping I’ll be able to do it.

What about: ”bleed the clutch hydraulics as they use the same fluid as well”. Is this for Fiesta also?

Cheers.
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#295925 - 05/04/11 12:40 AM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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THIRD YEAR SERVICE INTERVAL.

Model Fiesta 2001
Variant DURATEC-HE/MAN (01/2005 - 09/2008)
VIN
Interval 3 Years (37500 ml)
Repair/Order No
Reg. No.
Reg. Date
Radio Code
Mileage ml


Outstanding Field Service Actions. Please ensure they are completed.

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Driving Vehicle into Workshop
Instrument gauges, warning/control lights and horn Check operation
Clutch Check operation/adjust, if necessary
Washers, wipers Check operation/adjust, if necessary

Inside Vehicle
Exterior and respective control lights; instrument cluster illumination Check operation/condition
Odour filter Renew

Under Hood
Spark plugs Renew
Induction air filter Renew (more often in polluted conditions)

Under Vehicle
Engine Drain oil and renew oil filter
Tyres Check wear and condition, especially at tyre wall, note tread depth RF mm, LF mm, LR mm, RR mm

Brake system With wheels on, check brake pads and discs for wear. Check rear brake drums - in case of abnormal fluid loss, a separate order is required to investigate and rectify. (More often under severe duty conditions).

Outside Vehicle
Engine Refill engine oil
Tyres Adjust pressure
Spare wheel Adjust pressure, check wear - condition (note tread depth) mm

Service reminder sticker Affix to driver side B pillar

Extended Period Maintenance
Brake system Every 2 years - Renew - brake fluid (LTS 12 154 4)
Air conditioning Every 3 years - Check temperature at the evaporator outlet tube. Check air conditioning lines for damage and leaks (LTS 34 619 1) (TSB 67/2002)
Cooling system Every 10 years - Drain, flush and refill with purple Super Plus(LTS 24 122 4)
Auxiliary drive belts Every 125 000 miles/10 years - Renew (LTS 21 567 5)

Extra Services and Additional Offers * (optional - upon customer request / charged seperately)
AC maintenance package Air Conditioning (A.C.) system check. Apply A.C. cleaner to air distribution system. (LTS 54 552 4)
Odour filter plus Upgrade odour filter to odour filter plus.
YOU DONT NEED TO CHANGE THE FUEL FILTER.
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#295926 - 05/04/11 06:49 AM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: Tez]
geronimo Offline
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yeah, I have seen that list on the net already, problem is I called Ford dealership and they say that they change fuel filter on 3rd service interval :-).
I don't think I'll change it because it's only 29 000km.

also I don't know about these 2:

Clutch - Check operation/adjust, if necessary? I have no idea what kind of clutch I have and is there some oil/fluid involved also?

Air conditioning Every 3 years - Check temperature at the evaporator outlet tube - I remember on my 1st service they checked the temp by sticking the digital thermometer sensor inside one of the round vents and turning the AC on high, I don't remember which temperature I should get if AC is ok?

cheers
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#295927 - 05/04/11 11:51 AM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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you cant adjust the clutch as its hydraulic, and should be fine at the mileage you have, and the air con as long as it is cold should be fine also.
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#295928 - 05/04/11 12:03 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: Tez]
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Quote:

you cant adjust the clutch as its hydraulic, and should be fine at the mileage you have, and the air con as long as it is cold should be fine also.




Clutch fluid is coming from the same tank as the brake fluid right? Is it going to be flushed along with the brake fluid lines/tank when I use the bleed kit from eBay?
thanks.
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#295929 - 05/04/11 01:12 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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yes they share the same tank, just keep an eye on the level and the clutch will be ok, dont let the level drop to far.
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#295930 - 05/04/11 07:20 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: Tez]
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one more thing. just to be sure. I know I need DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 but is the fluid synthetic or mineral based?

cheers.
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#295931 - 09/04/11 09:19 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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Did the service today. Engine oil change + oil filter, brake fluid flush (Ford DOT 4, used the kit from eBay), power steering fluid (Ford green), Bosch Pollen filter, Loctite Hygiene Spray.

I didn't turn the engine on to flush the power steering fluid. I just raised the front wheels and turned the wheel lock to lock and it went out. I don't know why some say to turn the engine on or remove the spark leads and then crank the engine a couple of times while topping the fluid?

Also I didn't flush the clutch fluid. I'll do that next year if I manage to find where that clutch bleed nipple mentioned in the ford manual is?

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#295932 - 09/04/11 09:22 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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i think they say to take the spark leads off because if you do it while the engine is running the fluid pisses out pretty quick. i did mine with the engine running and then my mate dropped a jug of fluid all over my engine bay :-/

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#295933 - 09/04/11 09:35 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: matt22]
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i think they say to take the spark leads off because if you do it while the engine is running the fluid pisses out pretty quick. i did mine with the engine running and then my mate dropped a jug of fluid all over my engine bay :-/




that's what I thought, but why crank the engine at all if turning lock to lock with raised wheels is pumping the fluid out easy? Maybe there is a reason that I don't see?

Also ETIS says "Disconnect the crankshaft position (CKP) sensor electrical connector". I don't understand why and didn't really find this connector.

BTW the ford dealership put the red ATF fluid inside on the last service interval and not the green stuff.

Bad luck on the spill :-(. You had a bad time cleaning that up I bet.
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#295934 - 09/04/11 09:39 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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i think cranking over without the leads is a bit quicker than going lock to lock. to me it seems like a bit too much effort taking the leads off! not too sure about the crankshaft sensor, probably can go out of sync if its being cranked over for a while.

yeh had to power wash it off and then enjoy the lovely smell of hot fluid when i was driving for a week

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#295935 - 09/04/11 09:49 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: matt22]
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i think cranking over without the leads is a bit quicker than going lock to lock. to me it seems like a bit too much effort taking the leads off! not too sure about the crankshaft sensor, probably can go out of sync if its being cranked over for a while.

yeh had to power wash it off and then enjoy the lovely smell of hot fluid when i was driving for a week




well it was quite easy and fast to do it without cranking the engine. I just want to be sure that there is no other reason except speed.

I like the smell of hot power steering fluid in the morning .
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#295936 - 14/04/11 07:15 AM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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ha, I just realized (and checked with Ford) that I lost the paint/rust warranty (12 years) because I'm, not going to them for my yearly service schedule . It's complete BS.
Oh, well, they would take so much cash from me in 12 years for these "services" that I can probably buy another car by then .
That's a thanks for not taking them to court for all the BS and frauds they did to me and my car, some stuff also very illegal .
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#295937 - 14/04/11 08:32 AM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: geronimo]
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Thats rubbish, the paint check at my dealers is a seperate thing and they charged me £5 odd to fill the paint check part of the service book in, whats the bodywork got to do with the mechanical side of things, phone them up and complain and tell them your going to get in touch with ford themselves.
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#295938 - 14/04/11 05:17 PM Re: 3rd service interval help [Re: Tez]
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Yes the paint check is a seperate entry in the service logbook that's given it's own stamp. Provided you get this done annually, which doesn't cost much, then it doesn't matter where you get the main service done, the paint and anti-corrosion warranty is till valid.
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