Honestly, i always used to drive my car sensibly red lining my car and previous car i would cringe and avoid it.

I took my car in today had it's suspension fitted and i had an engine make over if you want to call it that everything cleaned internally using special cleaning liquids that loosen burnt oil re-grease the internals.

just to show you in comparison we had it on the rolling road before.

i had 176BHP

i then had my car cleaned out left running for half an hour and the mech took it out for 20-40 mins driving with me in it he red lined my car after it warmed up in 2nd and 3rd gear for no more than 20 secs each gear.

i was worried on third as the car was making a racket and then all of a suddent the car juddered and a bang/puff of smoke came out the engine.

My heart honestly sank and i thought he broke my car, i was convinced he had fudged it we got it back on the rolling road.

184BHP

he asked me what im using i said tesco momentum 99 he said your get 190bhp easily if you used proper BP petrol and not shitty tesco. I was like most guys with cams get 190bhp surely not?!

he said I'll do it for free to prove it too you get through this tank clean the injectors up and give me a call.

Oh and the mech said if you don't red line the car occasionally the car will eventually get clogged up, sports cars are designed to be red lined safely.

That being said red lining it everywhere will damage the engine but best to red line it in 2nd-3rd gear which is where the engine tends to get clogged up where rarely we never reach high rpm.

My car now is quick as f**k now!

i cant remember the stuff he used something like Tate or bate something with a 'te' at the end of it anyone used it before?

marmiTE??

But seriously, sounds like a worthwile clear out

FORTE?

Does sound like its worth while doing.
My is due a service so think a will get this done at the same time.

I don't think you should do engine flushes unless their is a real problem, no idea for the differing results there but if it feels better, fine. If you haven't got cams then your not going to make more than what you had before.
Every car should be given a bit now and then or just a good short motorway run every now and again if you do mainly urban commutes, no need to redline it neither.

i know there's a lot of skepticism with these cleaning agents, some dont work but this one they put in been going for a good 25 years.

well once i get through this tank im going to give it ago if i get 190bhp without cams I'll be loving I'll even have to get the print out framed .

This is probably the stuff - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Forte-...=item1e65a9109e
My cousin uses flushes in cars on a regular basis, diesel cars especially as diesel clogs all sorts of things up, EGR valves are common for clogging up also sticking injectors, Newer diesels with DPF filters in the exhaust cause the engine warning light to come on if the cars not thrashed now and again, Just thrashed a mates Leon FR 170 Deisel cos the DPF light came on, the heat burns the soot out the filter.

This one is expensive, but the rep who came to the garage showed us how it worked, got to admit i was impressed, going to put some through my partners fez diesel.
http://www.powerenhancer.co.uk/news/category/bg-44k-for-petrol/

I think the problem some people put forward with engine flushes is that it can clean out dirt which has actually become a part of the engine. For example dirt that is in cracks and seals and stuff. Hence after it, the cracks and seals can deteriorate very quickly as they are no longer protected with that dirt. I'm sure pro's know what they're talking about though.

I just hope it wasn't a tetrosyl product ;-)

EGR valves suck. I'm forever cleaning them out in work. Hate them.

This Forte (Thanks Stiffy ) stuff has a range of products, there is oils to use after the flush that replace lubricants on seals and piston rods.

and some stuff which fortifies that.

Well i was open to the idea i took it and im genuinely impressed the car certainly doesn't feel tired.

Araldite?

:P

well considering its torque limited in 1st and 2nd i think he was trying to pull a fast one.

dont get me wrong mate, but there is no way you should be seeing 190 without cams and your still running the standard map. just dont want you to be caught with your pants down.

and dont forget its easy for the tuner to make the rollers overread....not that i would say they would do such a thing

see you sunday matey

Dal