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#347943 - 01/09/11 05:24 PM Ford's New Idea.............
ROB IS THE STIG Offline
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I think this could work really well if done correctly.......


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#347944 - 01/09/11 05:30 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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will work wonders with insurance

i hope this means now that younger guys like myself can get faster, nicer cars and have them restricted like this to lower the insurance down.

imagine that lol

Focus RS 300BHP restricted to 90BP

least it will be run in well i guess

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#347945 - 01/09/11 05:32 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: STASON]
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The idea is certainly a good one, its the execution they need to get right now

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#347946 - 01/09/11 05:42 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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What's the point? just don't give your child access to a powerful car
I had my ka from my parents (as a gift for passing my test) and i didn't go round like some idiot who'd stolen it
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#347947 - 01/09/11 05:45 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Burn4]
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You NEVER drove fast when you had just passed with your mate's in the car??

Come on, we have all done that mate................

As i said, if its done right its a good idea

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#347948 - 01/09/11 06:06 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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yeah ok maybe a little bit (a lot more so now i have my ST) then again I didnt pass until I was 20 so maybe I was a little more 'mature'
I honestly didnt rag the nuts off it though I was more concerned with just getting some experience under my belt
I definately drive a lot faster now than I did back then

Anyway I see your point- as you say will be interesting to see how they apply it
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#347949 - 01/09/11 06:06 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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sounds pretty good
it could work well if, as Rob says, its done right
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#347950 - 01/09/11 06:06 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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that will be good if it has setting to the speed limits!

but if parents can set it at 40mph it will be dangerous!

whats it gonna do if someone undoes their seatbelt cut the engine or just beep? new cars beep anyway when seatbelts are not worn!
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#347951 - 01/09/11 06:20 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Dan_The_Man]
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Its not gonna cut the engine surely, thats just bloody crazy

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#347952 - 01/09/11 06:24 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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it empties the oil tank all over the road
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#347953 - 01/09/11 06:24 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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it might stop you from starting until you have the belt on, but it shouldnt stop the engine if your already driving
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#347954 - 01/09/11 06:26 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Sounds like a good idea. Will be an optional extra though wont it?
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#347955 - 01/09/11 06:39 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: kelartis]
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Sounds like a good idea. Will be an optional extra though wont it?




Without question............. it is after all

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#347956 - 01/09/11 06:39 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: kelartis]
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will be a couple of grand extra
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#347957 - 01/09/11 06:42 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Dan_The_Man]
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You know what
Make your son or daughter buy their own first car
Makes them realise the value of money and take more care in their first car
I bought every car I own and you know what, touch wood, I aint had an accident to date!
You appreciate it more when you work hard for it!
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#347958 - 01/09/11 06:52 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: kelartis]
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You know what
Make your son or daughter buy their own first car
Makes them realise the value of money and take more care in their first car
I bought every car I own and you know what, touch wood, I aint had an accident to date!
You appreciate it more when you work hard for it!




True that my friend! paid every penny outright on my ST and its my pride and joy (along with my drums)
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#347959 - 01/09/11 06:55 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Burn4]
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the reason for this is because in the states the car is insured not the drivers

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#347960 - 01/09/11 07:58 PM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: nosnow3]
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i will honestly admit this on here


after passing my test for the firs time and the first few weeks of driving i was a very un-easy guy i didnt like taking passengers as i was to be quite honest scared of driving with the added bonus of people talking to me.

few months passed a completely different story i got a false sense of being able to handle the car i picked up people thrashed the car around i got the need for speed.

It's at that point is when new drivers are at their worst as the over-confidence makes you take more risks.

i was a boy racer, theres no doubt about it in my little peugeot 106 1.1.

having had a few near misses, and some serious wake up calls i realised i had to stop before i crashed. so experience taught me to drive slower and analyse hazards better and actually make reasonable and correct decisions like shall i over take on this straight and taking a bend at so and so speed.

it wasn't until after a year of driving i began to calm down and drive most places about 40-50mph so it didn't hurt my pocket.

Then i got the GT-four which honestly again same case steady driver but having a faster car i actually began to appreciate it i thought well having this power i should be more responsible for how i drive, no idea why that thought came into my head.

i always knew when i was driving like an idiot i was driving like an idiot but it's an adrenaline rush. imagine getting onto a roller-coaster for the first time ride it and your buzzing? ride it more and more you loose the placebo effect and it gets boring and this is exactly the same with driving the longer you drive the more you become used it all and gain experience.

So these young drivers driving like idiots in some respect yes they are idiots but the other you have to say well wait i like putting my foot down and i enjoy it, its very hard not to do something you enjoy.

The fact that you can restrict a car is a genius idea.

low insurance and potentially could prevent a high speed accidence and most importantly deaths on the road.

i would quite happily take this with open arms with the fiesta ST and then when im 25 unlock the cars full potential.

i've saved myself 100's on insurance but i still have the X-factor of driving an ST

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#347961 - 06/09/11 08:21 AM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: STASON]
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Sounds like a great idea but that means all new drivers would have to have a brand new car? Not gonna work very well
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#347962 - 06/09/11 08:42 AM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Alex_H]
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Sounds like there are way too many issues with this, though we'd probably need to know more.

If the top speed is limited to 70mph for example, people could still speed in residential zones etc. It also doesn't address the issue of the car's power - it's not always about the speed, sometimes it's how long it takes to get to that speed. For example an inexperienced driver trying to get from 0-30, 40, 50 etc as fast as possible (with all his chavvy mates in the car) is going to be concentrating far too much on the car's speed and not enough on the potential hazards around him...

(Yes I know that is a very stereotypical view and I realise not everyone is an idiot and/or chav when they are young )
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#347963 - 06/09/11 11:05 AM Re: Ford's New Idea............. [Re: Dan_The_Man]
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that will be good if it has setting to the speed limits!

but if parents can set it at 40mph it will be dangerous!

whats it gonna do if someone undoes their seatbelt cut the engine or just beep? new cars beep anyway when seatbelts are not worn!




prob wont start unless you have the belt on and foot on the clutch like it does in my focus.

Dal
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