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#466504 - 20/09/12 07:59 PM Track Prep
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After going to the Nurburgring twice this year I think I've definitely caught the bug. What I want to do is get the car ready and maybe spend a little on mods over the winter and get it set up for next year. Anyone got any ideas of what to do? I was thinking along the lines of strip the back seats out and add a way to cool the brakes, they faded so quickly on track
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#466505 - 20/09/12 08:03 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: Duncan_P]
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Simple couple of things I would advise:

Save weight wherever possible

Stiffen her up front and back

Source some decent tyres for the track

Brake pads designed to work at a higher temp


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#466506 - 20/09/12 08:29 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Could take mine for a spin Duncan see what you think to my brakes only got the 300mm cheap as chips upgrade but have got green pads. Plus as rob said save weight as it's free

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#466507 - 20/09/12 10:41 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: redstLee]
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300mm brakes up front with some road/track pads and disks , possibly ebc yellow stuff?
Add ducting for cooling onto the disks, possibly route it through the wheel well?
Also do the st170 disk setup at the rear, braided hoses all round.

Dot 5 brake fluid? Pretty sure thats the higher grade stuff for track use.

Antiroll bars front and back?

Oh yeah and strip the back seats!

Pretty much just got my own ideas in my head now....aha!
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#466508 - 20/09/12 10:49 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: Jack_P]
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If the back seats come out does that unsettle the car? Its quite a bit of weight to take out, would it be best to get coilovers to compensate?
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#466509 - 20/09/12 10:58 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: Duncan_P]
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Dantheman or will are best asked for this, theyve been doing trackdays without the backseats. I cant imagine it would unsettle it but would defintely have a bit of a higer tendency for the back end to step out!

Bilstiens? If not the gaz setup that dantheman has is pretty decent, 2 way adjustable height and pressure, so you an set them to be soft and hard...giggdy
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#466510 - 20/09/12 11:51 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: Jack_P]
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Duff says it does unsettle his car in the corners obviously

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#466511 - 21/09/12 04:11 AM Re: Track Prep [Re: redstLee]
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Fact is i have been adding weight at the front (SC with intercooler and a heavier gearbox) which hasn't improved the handling at all. Front end grip is fine now on semi slicks but was pretty bad on normal Avon's.

Time to get back to the NA roots me thinks

Oh yeah and i can recommend the Ferodo DS2500 brake pads, although i believe they are more expensive than the EBC equivalent, haven't had any braking issues with standard size brakes.


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#466512 - 21/09/12 05:59 AM Re: Track Prep [Re: Duff]
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Dunno if I can be bothered with brakes atm, the only issue I had was them fading after heavy use. Has anyone here run cooling to them? I'm sure I read a post somewhere where they took the fog lights out and ran a pipe from there to the brakes but surely tpu'd have to cut through or remove the arch liner?
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#466513 - 21/09/12 08:03 AM Re: Track Prep [Re: Duncan_P]
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Dan the man removed his foglights and has fed tubing through to cool his brakes.
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#466514 - 21/09/12 08:21 AM Re: Track Prep [Re: sxkopite8]
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True, found his thread. Dont see how the pipes are attached though or if he took out the arch liner. I'll have to jack the car up and have a look.
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#466515 - 21/09/12 09:58 AM Re: Track Prep [Re: Duncan_P]
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At the very least, fold your rear seats flat, lower centre of gravity but you'll still have the weight there ;-).
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#466516 - 21/09/12 01:31 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: kinobeSTew]
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i've been folding mine flat so i can hear the exhaust more stew
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#466517 - 21/09/12 05:39 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: gary4vicky]
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1st of all i would get some stiffer springs than the spax, they allow the car to roll way too much, look great but if you want handling its not what you want really

brakes a good set of new pads will be a big improvement and braided lines and 5.1 fluid make the fade less

as for taking the seats out it doesnt feel light at the back really, i have the rear jacked up a bit higher than the front to give me more front grip as you can see in my signature, under heavy braking it does go light but if you brake in the right places on track you dont notice it, and if anything oversteer is 100% better to get on track than understeer as you can control the oversteer, understeer but ruins all the fun

i will upload the pics of where my brake coolers go later i dont have time right now
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#466518 - 21/09/12 06:12 PM Re: Track Prep [Re: Dan_The_Man]
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Cheers mate, I'd appreciate that
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