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#6527 - 07/01/05 09:45 PM Run-in
RjB Offline
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What do you guys know about running the ST in? Should we stay low on the rev range for a while? Ive heard so many things about different cars, like; start as you mean to go on and keep it low for 1k......


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#6528 - 07/01/05 10:00 PM Re: Run-in [Re: RjB]
JON_XL Offline
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bang it in hard from the start thats why you buy a new one with a warranty.

The harder you drive it the better obviously you have to let the engine warm up, but that applies to all driving not just run in!

it is good to vary the revs though not to just continually cruise at one point in the rev range.

Thats my two pence worth

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#6529 - 07/01/05 10:01 PM Re: Run-in [Re: RjB]
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This is such a debated thing. Ask any dealer or non-engineering person and they will say that technologies so good these days that running in is no longer necessary.

IMO that is total bollocks.

Yes the technology is there to machine metal to tolerances of many microns but the tooling, technology and time to do so would push the cost of producing a car like the Fiesta up by many, many thousands of pounds.

At the end of the day when you have moving parts that work against each other (particularly metal against metal) then there is always some bedding in to be done. Mainly this is the piston rings, oil control rings, crank bearings as well as dozens of other components. It is therefore important that:

- The car is warmed gently but promtly - don't just leave it idling on the drive
- Be gentle on the revs until full operating temperature is achieved. Remember that even if the water temperature is up to normal the oil temperature is still waaaaay behind!

The above two apply even once run in.

During the 1000mile running in period I personally:

First 500miles
- Don't rev passed 3.5k except on very rare occasions just allow it to 'blip' up to 4-5k. Keep this brief, say in second gear.
- Don't allow the engine to labour in any gear. By this I mean don't have the engine struggling in a gear e.g. 1000rpm in 3rd
- Don't use full throttle.

500-1000miles
- Same as before but up it by 1000rpm. 4.5k through the gears and allow it to blip up (occasionally!) to 6k.

After that, have fun. By the way, jumping on the M25 and doing a couple of laps doesn't count. Varying speeds are the key to a well run in engine.


This is the way I personally do it. You have to remember that you won't really reap the benefits unless you keep the car for several years. If you rag it hard from the start cars do seem to run quicker but in later life it will use more oil and probably sound less sweet.

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#6530 - 07/01/05 10:04 PM Re: Run-in [Re: Hugh]
RjB Offline
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Good stuff. The ST bible continues to grow.

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#6531 - 07/01/05 10:10 PM Re: Run-in [Re: Hugh]
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Yeh, i always wondered about this. I did stumble across this site http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Give it a read as he thinks slightly different to most!

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#6532 - 07/01/05 10:14 PM Re: Run-in [Re: supercharged]
RjB Offline
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Foot to the floor. lol.

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#6533 - 07/01/05 10:19 PM Re: Run-in [Re: RjB]
Hugh Offline


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Interesting link supercharged, thanks for that.

Think I'll be sticking with my method though.

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#6534 - 07/01/05 10:31 PM Re: Run-in [Re: Hugh]
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Registered: 24/05/04
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Loc: Nuneaton, Warwickshire
Yeh, it somehow just doesn't seem right to do that to a new engine! But its a interesting read all the same to see it from a different perspective.

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#6535 - 07/01/05 10:49 PM Re: Run-in [Re: supercharged]
Scotty Offline
Porsche 997 Turbo & ST150

Registered: 27/02/04
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OR drive like i do and have a car that goes much faster than it should lol.

Damn an would be nice!
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#6536 - 10/01/05 11:57 PM Re: Run-in [Re: Scotty]
davidChief Offline
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Registered: 27/02/04
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I do remember the Focus RS owners who thrashed their cars from day one (myself included) and ended up with way higher bhp figures on the rolling road. That said, I personally think problems could have cropped up later in the car's life.

Very interesting reading.
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#6537 - 11/01/05 05:37 AM Re: Run-in [Re: Hugh]
Acidean Offline
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Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 104
Quote:

This is such a debated thing. Ask any dealer or non-engineering person and they will say that technologies so good these days that running in is no longer necessary.

IMO that is total bollocks.




Have to side with you on this one m8... I remember earlier in another forum someone mentioned that the ST seemed to stall easily from pull away. When I just got my Zetec I had the same problem.

If you let it go below 900 rpm it used to die immediately. Now it's got 22000 km's (about 13670 miles)on and I can let it drop below 500 rpm and it still picks up without a problem.

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