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#70628 - 07/02/07 04:29 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
Scotty Offline
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Taking it in today to be tested 2morrow.

Hope they don't give me the clutch is worn bullcrud.




I burnt my clutch out I don't think Focus' are supposed to go that quick.

Don't let them give you the crap, go to different places and get other opinions.
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#70629 - 07/02/07 05:18 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
Lplus Offline
Fiesta Mad

Registered: 29/11/06
Posts: 283
Loc: Chandlers Ford, Hants
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Taking it in today to be tested 2morrow.

Hope they don't give me the clutch is worn bullcrud.




If they say that after the road test, insist on getting the parts that they take out and keeping them. Tell them before it goes in for repair and make sure that saving and giving you the bits is noted on the sheet you sign for them to do work on the car.

Might be worth getting the parts whatever they say. They might try the 'we want to send them away for analysis' bit but if they're just worn, why would they need to analyse them?

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#70630 - 08/02/07 05:11 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: Lplus]
MichaelST1 Offline
Fiesta Crazy

Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 559
I'm so annoyed!!!! Wish I could let rip!

NFF on a squeaky front seat.... it does it every time!!!
NFF on clutch biting point high..... its right at the top FFS!!!!
NFF on squeak from the rear o/s/r hear it every time over bumps

I dont think they have actually done a roadtest to be honest!!!

Oh but this is the cherry on the cake....

Its pulling to the left and the trackings out.... I'VE ONLY JUST HAD IT DONE AS I'VE JUST HAD NEW TYRES!!!!

W*NKERS!!!!

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#70631 - 08/02/07 05:13 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
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more problems!!! Few other characteristic of the car!! Should be call the Fiesta LT!!!(Lots of Trouble)!!
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#70632 - 08/02/07 05:20 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: babyboom]
Lplus Offline
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Registered: 29/11/06
Posts: 283
Loc: Chandlers Ford, Hants
Jeez, that's just ridiculous. I hope you still have the receipt for having the tracking done so you can shove it in their faces. Sounds like they're looking at the fault sheet from the time you took it in for the tracking!!

They should at least pick up the vibration through the clutch pedal!

Isn't there another dealer near you?

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#70633 - 08/02/07 05:47 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: Lplus]
MichaelST1 Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
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I swear they have tested the wrong car!!!

It wasnt a vibration... the biting point is high and its hard to pull away without the engine going to stall. I've got the receipt.... but I can see the road damage can happen at anytime rubbish coming....

I'm proper going to flip my lid when I collect it tonight!

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#70634 - 08/02/07 05:49 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
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most dealer are crap when I was still using my corsa they was a hole in the exhaust system could hear it! they went for a test drive and come back say everything was fine even so u could actually see the hole!!
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#70635 - 09/02/07 08:25 AM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
Lplus Offline
Fiesta Mad

Registered: 29/11/06
Posts: 283
Loc: Chandlers Ford, Hants
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I swear they have tested the wrong car!!!

It wasnt a vibration...



Sorry, you mentioned noise not vibration, still, they should have noticed the noise - and after stalling it a few times they should have noticed that too!

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#70636 - 09/02/07 09:11 AM Re: High Biting point [Re: Lplus]
MichaelST1 Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
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It turns out its not pulling to the left..... They said oh it must have been the camber of the road. Jeeeeeez surely a Ford trained technician can tell when its the camber of the road!

Went out with the service manager and he could fell the engine holding back and going to stall, he agreed biting point was high.

Thinks it could be hego sensor related.

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#70637 - 09/02/07 12:17 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
Iceman Offline
Fiesta Nutter

Registered: 27/09/06
Posts: 3019
Loc: Bradford.
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Thinks it could be hego sensor related.



whats exactly is that.


Edited by ChrisCumbria (09/02/07 06:08 PM)
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#70638 - 09/02/07 01:24 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: Iceman]
MichaelST1 Offline
Fiesta Crazy

Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 559
Also known as Oxygen sensor goes onto the flexipipe.

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#70639 - 09/02/07 05:15 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
DAVE T ST Offline
Fiesta Nutter

Registered: 15/01/06
Posts: 3556
Loc: Tipton nr. Dudley, W. Mids
Takes deep breath...........

That's very interesting about the hego sensor and the poor performance.

As some of you may know, my has had the poor performance and irratic/lumpy idle issue since it was 600 miles old.
I took it back to Bristol St West Brom (where I bought it from) five times for them to investigate but they always gave it me back saying it was a character of the car ,
not listening to my plees that the same 1.25 Zetec was blowing me away each morning on the way to work or that I had driven ST_ONE's and knew what a proper ST should be like.
Anyway they got a technical specialist to have the car for a day and he told me it was normal as well! Tosser .
I informed him that he was inexperienced and that he should have driven the equivelant car back to back with mine before he came to that conclusion!
Anyway I gave up, got depressed and started planning to get rid of it as I had convinced myself that it was me being fussy and that they were right.

Then one morning while I was sitting in the car before I went into work, having a fag (a cigarette not a man ) the systems failure lamp came on (the asterix with a cog around it) and the EML (engine warning lamp) and the cluster was saying "major systems failure - drive to dealer" and also for the previous few weeks it had been gradually getting worse and was stinking of rotten eggs. But when I got back in after work it had gone off.
I booked the car in at Heartlands Ford Erdington because 1 - I wasn't going to waste my time with Bristol St again and 2 - They are situated right at the back of the Jaguar plant so I wouldn't have to drive a KA or a 1.25 LX again!!
I picked the car up and quess what - yep - they told me they couldn't find anything the matter with it BUT he did say that the PCM (Engine ECU) had gone out of sync and that he had re-calibrated it for me, road tested it and that it did feel a bit better. I explained the history of the problem to him and he told me not to worry, if I'm not happy bring it back and they'll investigate.
My god he was right , for the next three days it was running like a dream, fast as f**k and really smooth & quiet.
ST_ONE will tell you I was like a dog with two dicks!!
Then on the way home from work on the Thursday it clicked back into mongol mode again and my happiness fell out of my back passage
Then on the Friday (two weeks ago) on the way home from work the EML came on again and it really was struggling to run (coughing and stinking like a mental case) so I thought, I'm not doing anything, I'm phoning the AA out while the lamp's on.
The AA man came out and read the fault codes off for me, they were
P0132 - High Voltage No.1 Hego Sensor
P01132 - Air/Fuel Mixture fault.
"Your cat sensor's knackered", he said.

So I phoned Heartlands on the Saturday morning and they got me booked in for the Monday (good service or what!) I got a call at lunch time Monday telling me the Hego sensor had gone but he'd have to order it in as there were none in the country so I could pick my car up and they would call me when the part arrives for me to have it fitted.
So the car went in yesterday to have the HEGO sensor fitted and he told me that he re-calibrated the PCM again (you have to apparently, when you've changed an engine component) then took it on a road test.
He then told me that during the road test, he wasn't happy with the bad smell coming from the exhaust (eggs) or the idle lumpyness or the throttle response so he took it back into the workshop and did a test on the catalyst and found that it had collapsed internally and was strangling the engine!!
He said that the fault has probably been there since new but the HEGO sensor would always have been trying to correct the running of the engine to compensate for it, which has over worked it and caused it to give up the ghost and pack up!!
So to finish off, he's ordered a new cat for me and will call me when it's in so he can fit it for me.
He has also assured me that if it's still not right after that then they will do some serious investigation for me (which could include stripping the engine down) but I won't let them get that far, I shall reject the car then because I'll have all the evidence I'll need.
Sorry to rant on but this problem had bugged me for agaes and I needed to get it off my chest.
So the morale of the story is........
Never give up!!
Thank you very much
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#70640 - 09/02/07 05:37 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: DAVE T ST]
MichaelST1 Offline
Fiesta Crazy

Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 559
@ at the way you wrote that

Very interesting indeed. I know excatly how you feel about the Fault not confirmed.....no fault found rubbish you get fobbed off with.

Spoke to the tech again today and he sugested putting higher octane fuel (already use 99) then he said to put fuel additive in and go on a long run!!!

1. Ford dont recommend it , it says so in the handbook.
2. Are they going to pay for it as its a warranty issue? doubt it very much!!

It seems like they don't want to help and that they have been instructed by ford to do minimal warranty repairs or something!!

Taking it to another dealer is hassels cos they are quite far away.

Can't wait to get rid of this pile of a car!!!

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#70641 - 09/02/07 06:27 PM Re: High Biting point [Re: MichaelST1]
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Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 11557
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those cars seem to have lots of problems there must be built on a Friday!! Anyway hope u get ur car fixed so u can finally enjoy it!!
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