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#93341 - 22/06/07 03:27 PM Induction Kits
steve1981 Offline
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Guys..... I know we have all been around the houses on this but I'm in the market for an induction kit and want some real info......


Firstly, if you have a kit, what do you have and what is good/bad about it?

Secondly - what is the cheapest place to buy as I have seen prices all over the place.

I'm mainly interested in the green kit (which I can't find for sale in many places), Pipercross, RaidHP/Ramair or maybe K&N (but think it looks cheap!)

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#93342 - 22/06/07 07:32 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: steve1981]
JamieST Offline
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I've got the Green induction kit - wasn't too keen on it at first as it isn't a particularly good fit in the engine bay - but the sound is AWESOME! Apparently the Green is slightly louder than the K&N, but I haven't compared the two myself. I really like the look of it as well, definately better looking than the K&N IMO:


I made up a set of detailed instructions on how to fit the Green, which is in the 'How to...' section if you need any help
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#93343 - 22/06/07 08:00 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: JamieST]
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You say the K&N possibly but you think it looks cheap... how often are you going to be admiring it? If you are more in to underbonnet detailing & want some sound then you probably want something with a bit more metal/shiny bits (Powertec ??)

If you want sound & performance, then a green or K&N I would say. I had a PiperX foam cone on my MG which ounded lurvely, but that was a V6.

If you want outright performance, then generally you are looking at an enclosed induction kit but you will lose sound with that. I've got an enclosed Piper Viper kit on the Elise and notice zero difference in sound. Still looks nice with the Carbon Fibre cover.

By the way, my K&N was £69 plus delivery (£6 or something). Very happy with the sound and seems to be a bit sharper on the throttle. Flexi arrives on Monday !!

Andy

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#93344 - 22/06/07 10:46 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: gorrieman]
Cron Offline
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Green is a lot louder than the K&N, like Jamie says its a pig of a fit and you have to make sure you get it just right or it rubs on the engine bay. It doesn't feel as well made as the K&N either but its a very good filter.

The K&N is much more subtle, better build quality than the Green and fits MUCH MUCH better - also comes with the cold air feeds.

I had both, ended up sticking with the K&N, not much in it - nothing in performance difference. Go with whichever you prefer the look of / noise of - both are great and a very good first mod to do - Jamie's guide is spot on - just make sure you get that fitting right before you start driving too much with the green or it WILL rub.
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#93345 - 23/06/07 07:02 AM Re: Induction Kits [Re: Cron]
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Did go for the KN on my ST! sound nice maybe not as loud as the other but still fill a performance improvement!and also the KN is very easy to fit and have cold air feeds with it as well! but any would do it!
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#93346 - 24/06/07 10:27 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: babyboom]
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And powertec is louder than the green IMO. but it is a bigger filter.
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#93347 - 25/06/07 08:27 AM Re: Induction Kits [Re: Sir Mr Fabrix]
steve1981 Offline
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Anyone fitted the ramair/raidHP/Wolf filter?

It looks to fit directly onto the throttle body so looks tidy and no issues with rubbing. Also a lot cheaper but does have a seperate breather filter using the orrginal pipework which looks a little naff but does the job.

Where can you buy green filters and has anybody tried to fit directly to the throttle body without the bend pipe? (I know you will need a seperate breather)
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#93348 - 25/06/07 09:15 AM Re: Induction Kits [Re: steve1981]
Cron Offline
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performancestars.co.uk sell them, but they are more expensive than the K&N as well. There is no way that it will fit without the bend pipe the cone is huge.
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#93349 - 05/07/07 08:53 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: Cron]
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So steve for which induction kit did u go for then? have u decide?
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#93350 - 08/07/07 12:15 AM Re: Induction Kits [Re: babyboom]
palletpaul Offline
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How much more noiser is a K&N cone filter over the standard air box on the ST?

The reason i ask is i had a cone filter on my 1.8 zetec focus & the noise from it was hurrendous along a motorway at 70mph. Like a loud droning noise

I would like to fit an aftermarket airfilter but nothing to noisey

Cheers,

Paul

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#93351 - 10/07/07 09:09 AM Re: Induction Kits [Re: palletpaul]
gorrieman Offline
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It's quite noisy/droney at around 4k/rpm, especially if you have the windows down... but it's a nice noise overall. After 4K the noise continues but I don't find it as droney... it's just a small rpm range where it just goes through a stage that resonates a bit more.

Andy.

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#93352 - 13/07/07 12:33 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: gorrieman]
Leah Offline
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Quote:

You say the K&N possibly but you think it looks cheap... how often are you going to be admiring it? If you are more in to underbonnet detailing & want some sound then you probably want something with a bit more metal/shiny bits (Powertec ??)

If you want sound & performance, then a green or K&N I would say. I had a PiperX foam cone on my MG which ounded lurvely, but that was a V6.

If you want outright performance, then generally you are looking at an enclosed induction kit but you will lose sound with that. I've got an enclosed Piper Viper kit on the Elise and notice zero difference in sound. Still looks nice with the Carbon Fibre cover.

By the way, my K&N was £69 plus delivery (£6 or something). Very happy with the sound and seems to be a bit sharper on the throttle. Flexi arrives on Monday !!

Andy




Where did you get your from? I've just been quoted £100.13 from a local dealer been looking on ebay and found some a bit cheaper.

So is K&N better than the Green one (which I've never heard of)? Or the other way round?

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#93353 - 13/07/07 12:56 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: Leah]
gorrieman Offline
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Leah... I'll PM you...

Andy.

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#93354 - 13/07/07 01:01 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: gorrieman]
Leah Offline
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Leah... I'll PM you...

Andy.




Thanks Andy....never really sure what to go for!

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#93355 - 13/07/07 01:15 PM Re: Induction Kits [Re: Leah]
gorrieman Offline
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OK... you have your PM now Leah... use it wisely

IMO I'd guess there is very little difference between K&N & Green. Some performance figures suggest the K&N is better... some suggest they are similar. All I know is that the K&N fits well, doesn't rub and sounds nice... think it has made a difference in performance also.

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