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#96978 - 12/07/07 11:40 AM What engine
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Does any body know what engine is in the zetec s. I always thought that it was the zetec se. But the air box cover says duratec and the ford website says the same.
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#96979 - 12/07/07 12:15 PM Re: What engine [Re: Micky]
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I'm pretty sure its a re-badged Zetec engine
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#96980 - 12/07/07 02:28 PM Re: What engine [Re: PinkRinse]
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I've contacted DAVE T ST, who knows this kinda stuff and he said....

It was originally called the Zetec SE. It's a Yamaha engine, the same as the 1.25.

Why are you asking Micky? Got some plans?
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#96981 - 12/07/07 03:15 PM Re: What engine [Re: Kev]
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I've contacted DAVE T ST, who knows this kinda stuff and he said....

It was originally called the Zetec SE. It's a Yamaha engine, the same as the 1.25.

Why are you asking Micky? Got some plans?



I think the 1.7 from the puma was yamaha engine as well!
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#96982 - 12/07/07 04:17 PM Re: What engine [Re: Kev]
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I've contacted DAVE T ST, who knows this kinda stuff and he said....

It was originally called the Zetec SE. It's a Yamaha engine, the same as the 1.25.

Why are you asking Micky? Got some plans?




You know me Kev have always goty plans The zetec se is a very un-tunable engine without spending mega money, When i lifted the bonnet and saw Duratec i thought it was going to be a bit easier. Just looking at options when and if i get some money together.
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#96983 - 12/07/07 05:45 PM Re: What engine [Re: Micky]
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The 1.7 Puma engine is also a Zetec-SE yes with VVT and 125PS
You can drop in a Puma engine then tune that to puma racing spec.
That'll get you 160+
No mods needed to get it to fit either, just bolt in!!
You would have to do some work on the PCM though as you would need to wire in the Puma one to enable the VVT functionality that your PCM does not support.

You would then fail MOT though unfortunately as the Puma was only Euro 3 emissions whereas all current Fiestas are Euro4
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#96984 - 12/07/07 05:46 PM Re: What engine [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Though saying that, you could use the PCM from the current Focus 1.6 VCT (115PS)as that has the fuctionality for VVT, then you would get Euro4 emissions
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#96985 - 12/07/07 06:35 PM Re: What engine [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Thanks for that DAVETST Not sure about the emission thing though. Have seen Mk6 fiesta with a cosworth engine in which is road legal. Will have to keep my eyes open but now got a mortgage think the mods will start to slow down
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#96986 - 12/07/07 08:05 PM Re: What engine [Re: Micky]
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Thanks for that DAVETST Not sure about the emission thing though. Have seen Mk6 fiesta with a cosworth engine in which is road legal. Will have to keep my eyes open but now got a mortgage think the mods will start to slow down




That would be classed as a kit car (to be legal) and would need an engineers report and probably a new registration number, then it wouldn't have to pass the MOT emissions.

A 2nd hand Puma engine wouldn't cost as much as you think
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#96987 - 13/07/07 06:14 PM Re: What engine [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Dave T is the PCM the engine management or is it more complicated than that, Surley you could use an after market ecu like omex or something so you wouldn't have to mess around with it quite as much?

And i just noticed that the throttle body is in a different place on mine to the 1.6 zetec se found in the puma. Wouldn't all zetecs have then in the same place just the cylinder size and internals change?


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#96988 - 14/07/07 04:54 PM Re: What engine [Re: Micky]
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Yes, sorry, the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is the Engine ECU.
The throttle body is in a different position to the Puma yes but that's due to the cheap plastic inlet manifold forced onto Fiesta V and the fact that they had to package in fly-by-wire throttle to strangle the engine but meet EuroIV emissions.
The Puma is a cable controlled throttle.

You could adapt an aftermarket PCM but it would be cheaper to source the factory PCM from the donor car and adapt the engine bay harness to work it.
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#96989 - 14/07/07 05:43 PM Re: What engine [Re: DAVE T ST]
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Thanks for that , Think i might just stay with the engine i got a make the most of that. Cheapest route i think + i got a few ideas i want to try out. + it means might be able to save something towards the cossie.
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